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I wish I could upvote your comment a couple times more. If you don't mind I'm copying this on my notepad.
Yeah this. Actually worth to watch it for once everyday.
by the way, that frame with 'taste' is awesome
Thanks for writing a reply Ricardo. It really means a lot to me. For a long time I notice that I was having this burnout and you all noticed me whining is not the answer nor it won't solve anything.
The low-level guys. Something I stoped doing a while ago and don't understand why people still do it.
For pay checks man. That's why I'm being a low-lvl guy. And I'm aware of that I'm more sophisticated and smart from the 'sales' team at the office (I'm not being narcissist. This is a fact) Like everyone who are on DN. If I've had a heritage etc. I'd never ever design for money nor sell it. Anyway, to pay my bills I have to do what I'm best at and that's judged as a low-lvl job. I think it's very pathetic that people who put stickers on us that says 'photoshop guy' or 'coder who uses the keyboard fast'
get a revolution on design
I'd love to see and participate on that.
And for someone that as a little time for a side project
Little time? You've just took the word from my tongue. I don't know how I'm going to manage it but I guess it's going to take up a little (or very much) from me. I guess I'm going to say good bye to weekends and social life for a period of time
( @Korhan Eser, I'm looking at you :D )
Huh, what me? hehe :) This weekend I'm going to have a meeting with me And I'm going to write an open journal through the process. If I could create something useful, let that be an guide to upcoming designers. Because where I live it's going to be tough as hell. If I fail, that'll be an nice example too I guess
Blood, sweat and tears.
Those are the words that summaries the whole thread.
There's none happening where I live. Do you have any suggestions that I can participate online or even watch the progress? I'd be glad if you share.
It’s your gift to the world… and essential to your soul. Those are very valuable words. Probably I do not understand the underlying meaning but for these two days I'm starting figure out something. I guess I'll figure it out like you've said when I really create something from an empty canvas/space.
Of course I don't mind! And to be honest it really felt great and I'm filled with something that I cannot describe. It's not a hype or excitement. I feel like I've woken up. It's way better then to have a short termed thrill to create -some- design. Thank to you all. And I'm getting more awake when you guys support me like this.
It's been a long and tiring day at office today. Actually I couldn't find time to check DN today until now. Now I'm heading to your thread
well I've started working with that kind of perspective and learned it with the hard way. That two are exact opposite stuff. I do believe feed my artistic needs with my illustrations/sketches and I never intent to fuse them with my professional life. I don't want to feel distant to the only thing that I'm in control too.
Aaron thanks for asking these. I got enough courage to get a hold on myself was just planning to how and what to do. When I look to your projects, I can see that I don't have use my everyday tools (computer, ps, ai) for years I've become blunt and I thought I should stay put and work on desk. These two days are going way better than I was expecting (even thou horrible amount of work at the office)
Thank you Aaron. And thank you all again.
I really don't know where to start. I should start by thanking you for sharing your precious time to write all these. I really needed this kind of talk. Seriously. Your wasted times didn't gone for nothing.
1) Your work is not a piece of art
Luckily I've noticed this early. So this is not my concern anymore when working with clients.
2) I was working for the wrong people.
I think I've never had luck with this one. I never saw a single acc rep giving brief without comments. 'this account of mine likes red so make the design redder' 'these guys want their logo huge' etc etc. And the sad part is, they're more valuable in a agency. And if you deliver the design fast they're your best friends. If not...
Anyway I do agree your first statement, and you've just made me notice I've been working with wrong people from the beginning. In this thread people are suggesting me to start my own company, project, start up, product. That's me. Creating something from scratch for people. Not companies.
And then CHANGE. And change FAST.
This might sound stupid or funny to you but today, I was even planning about to do scrum by myself on weekends to get a hold and grip what I've always wanted. (It might be possible to scrum, IDK yet)
Btw I'd love to talk more with you. Maybe even collaborate in non-commercial projects.
And thank you. Seriously. For waking me up.
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