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So what does that say about me?
It’s funny, but I created this account just to upvote this thread. Glad you noticed.
And yes, that means I’m a Figma fan.
I'm working on my start-up right now, and I'm collaborating in real time to set up the design direction with my co-founder, it's a lot better. It's amazing.
I'll send a more detailed answer later, but for now, I just wanna say this: I design on a 15' Retina MacBook Pro, so I know the pain of not having real-estate. There's a shortcut to hide the UI in Figma, on Mac it's CMD + " , and it's your best friend! Get a configurable buttons mouse and bind that shortcut to a mouse button, it's amazing ;)
Wait for Affinity Designer. There has been a teaser floating around for iPad Pro and it's sick!
You should mention this "global colors" thing to the guys below bragging about Sketch's amazing plugin ecosystem.
I feel there are people in here who haven't designed a real product before. Being a designer is much harder than submitting cool looking dribbble shots on a daily basis.
Here's how I feel about this:
Dropbox / Something else used for collaboration > Sketch + random unmaintained/broken plugins > Airbnb's design to code ( to keep your styleguide in check ) > Craft / Invision / other prototype tools > Zeplin / other handoff targeted software > Code
Figma > Code
Performance, real time collaboration, synchronized assets, better color management, better font rendering, better pixel snapping, better components support, better font management, better text handling, prototyping, cross-platform compatibility, better project management, handoff support, tidie&clearner interface, better mobile-preview app, better pricing, that's all I could think of, but they are all valid reasons.
Give it a try, and bring a friend with you, it's fun :)
I'm not sure how much you know about start-up funding, but $18mil for a 4year runway is crazy low, especially considering the product they've built.
Look at InVision's funding and then take a ride in their product, see who has a broke team trying things out by building a shitty product and monetizing the hell out of it.
I'd say it is way better. It has better performance, a better built components (symbols) systems, REAL-TIME collaboration (good luck getting there, sketch), and now even prototyping (hell yeah!)... Give Figma a try before you roast it and you'll ditch Sketch in a second.
Yes, it has drawbacks, like hotkeys and no way of creating plugins, as of now. But to be honest it only takes a tiny amount of time until you get used to the shortcuts, and I have yet to see a properly built Sketch plugin. Even Craft, from InVision ,feels like a mammoth Frankenstein, with 80% of its functionality being useless.
Did you try the Airbnb Design System in practice or you're just jumping in the hype train? It solves absolutely no problems except the designing with code part, which guess what, it's been done since CSS was invented.
The only thing the Airbnb team has solved with it is that they've gotten their name up in the design community once again after Lottie. It's a broken solution and will get lost in the darkness of time unless it will be rebuilt for something more popular than React Native.
I think the Sketch Team does a great job. They've made a product that probably became the top reason for designers to switch to macOS. Kudos to them!
But please, "the trade off are worth it" is a completely biased statement, Figma is the next big thing, just give it a try and look for the arguments I added here, there are big chances you'll change your mind
You're saying the most important features like real-time collaboration, a properly built-in components system, better performance and prototyping are features that "not compelling enough"? I really don't see your point...
I would never go back to a software whose only "compelling" features is a bunch of unmaintained plugins and... and what? The most useful plugin I've used is "Replace Colors" and guess what... even that one suffered from glitches. You should try Figma's color management, it just works.. Flawlessly.
The only top InVision leads is the top of software that makes no sense paying for. They got at least twice (maybe 4x...or more?) the amount of funding Figma has and they've built a crappier software with limited functionality, that doesn't even work in Safari.
The only thing I appreciate about InVision is their Brandon Grotesque + Open Sans combination, which looks sick. But it's easy to judge a book by its cover and I guess that's the only reason why top designers love them.
And Craft.. :) if I've had a menu bar icon for every plugin I've used with Sketch my Bartender would break.
You're comparing apples to pears, but fine, I'm just wondering, how do the devs that are using Linux use Zeplin? ( a bunch of kickass devs use linux builds ), I bet they'd prefer Figma.
I'm sorry if I sounded harsh, but I felt bad seeing that you're trying to drag Figma down by comparing it to Invision, Sketch and Zeplin and breaking it apart, when it has some aspects that are WAY, WAY ahead of others and that all of them combined couldn't match.
Oh and by the way, Invision raised at least $60mil afaik, they monetize the app much harder than Figma and still manage to have a shittier product offering a broken experience.
The truth is, from a product standpoint, the top for design tools is pretty much like this, and this is just my opinion, not a general truth:
Figma > Sketch > Gravit.io > Zeplin > Apple Keynote > Adobe PS/AI/FW > Invision
Affinity Products (from Serif) have a special place in my heart so I excluded them, their performance is amazing and I would probably rank them first, along with Figma, just because of that.
Nothing stops them from implementing a functionality like that. Figma has been contributing to Electron, and this shows they've got the knowledge and the will to push into the native territory.
I can see Airbnb's solution making a lot of sense as long as you're using React Native (not ReactJS) on your website, but the truth is most businesses are not, and this limit only makes keeping the design-system/website synchronization just as broken as it has always been.
I'd rather see a solution that takes LESS/PUG files and spits out Sketch files. LESS/PUG files which can be used just as easy on a real website deployment. That'd be cool.
Edit: The truth is the Sketch plugin ecosystem is like the Windows App Store in the early days, I have yet to see a plugin that works like a nice & tidy piece of software.
These guys deserve it all. When a web-app beats native in terms of scrolling and drag and drop... you have to love it. #straightOuttaCanvas
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