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Hey Dustin. I´m sorry, sometimes is difficult to understand how things are said. So it´s my fault :)
I agree with you in everything you say about her and her job, specially when you talk about self-confident, because for me is always a very big deal (because of that I said I could learn something of the way she made it) From the beginning I said that I understand her point. I´m not stupid, I know shopify, I have read the case studies of her website and you can see, if you know a little bit about design that Hellen is a top designer. There is no doubt about that. Then, that does not means that I necessary have to say: Oh the website is perfect, or I like everything in this website. Even understanding her motivations and the goals that the design try to achieve when I saw it the first time, I thought: Ego. It was my first impression.
That does not invalidate anything. That website is perfect for her and I also said that sure that the web is going to work perfect too. And, finally, and the more important for me, I also said: That is muy opinion. This is an open forum, I haven´t been disrespectful, I haven´t said the website is bullshit, I´m not telling it because she is a woman... I´m just expressing my point and that is not a reason to be attacked, either my work. I have nothing to hide. I do my work the best I can every time and the quality and relevance of my designs is what it is. I try to be better everyday. I work in an agency, yes. I make some dribbble experiment, Yes. Maybe is not good enough for some people but I have worked very hard to be where I am and if you think that my opinion have no value because of that, that is not my problem.
After reading your whole comment I wonder why you didn´t tell me what you thought in the way you finally did. I think that everything can be discussed respectfully and also thing we agree in the key points, but after all these conversations I´m pretty sure is the last time I make a comment here in DN.
Edit: Thanks for your apologies. I haven´t read it. I was a little angry after reading the firs part of your comment.
Have a good time
I´m not invalidating anything. That is what you say. The quality of her work is out of any discussion. And, thanks for judging my work. It´s funny you talk about fallacies and finish your post with an authority fallacy trying to invidate my opinion because my work is not so relevant as her. I´m stop writing here because I don´t want to be disrespectful.
By the way. I wrote this yesterday in one of the comment I made... Maybe I don´t like some parts of the web but I can see the value that it has and I´m sure I can learn a couple of things of how she talks about herself and how to make your personal site.
So, please, stop judging me.
It´s your problem is you want to convert this in something related to gender, men and women. So, please, don´t make me part of your prejudices.
Maybe if the focus was in the work we talk about the work...
It´s beautiful. I´ve enjoyed the trip.
I agree when you say about being more than a designer and sure she is amazing and awesome and super ambitious and profesional. As Nice Shoes says, the first impression is... different. After that you realize Helen is an amazing profesional. No doubt about it, but you don´t need to show you as a H&M model in a fashion comercial to prove it (ask Paula Scher, for example). So, yes, I call that ego. It´s like the classical stereotype of "the cool designer".
And not doing that do not means that you are a photoshop monkey at all.
By the way, It´s difficult to find the tone in not your native language. I´m using smileys because of that and remarking that what I´m saying is just an opinion because we are talking about the work of other person. So, I´m saying if something like me or not. Be as sarcastisc as you want :)
Maybe I don´t like some parts of the web but I can see the value that it has and I´m sure I can learn a couple of things of how she talks about herself and how to make your personal site.
Well, perhaps you are assuming things about me :)
I think culture and the value of who you are is important and a part of you as a profesional. I understand the concept and you have to be very... I can´t find the word in English if you put as a hero content a video or you dancing, but I think is good. Anyway, IMHO the way the content is balanced is not so awesome or super cool (just my opinion)
I can see this person has a very strong personality and also has the ability to make it a very strong point and I´m sure that is something that really work in her case but I think that is too much. When I saw the web I only could think in... EGO. But is different and here I am, talking about it with you, so I guess the goal is reached... but I don´t like :)
At the end is only an opinion and who cares...
It´s something interesting... but clients are really interested in your personal live? I´m not sure. I think who you are is also important but not more important than your work. When I´m in the other side and need to hire a profesional to do some work I don´t care about her last fitness competition.
Anyway, This is not a critic. I like the website and everyone is free to choose the way to be exposed to the world :)
See how designers deal with the ego is always interesting :)
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