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Mississauga (near Toronto) Creative Director at www.veriday.com Joined over 6 years ago via an invitation from Hunter O.
My wife is a teacher, and I've often been asked to take part in 'career night' events etc.
The school she teaches at is predominately asian, south asian (which she herself is) and middle-eastern. As a result, it's a very 'high achievment' environment, and most kids have some sort of expectation of the big three careers...Doctor, Lawyer, Engineer. It's that or nothing....and a lot of those high expectations come from the parents...
I've seen it myself on Career nights... if a teenager shows the slightest interest in my 'design' booth etc, or my presentation, you can see the horror or dismay on the parents face...'that's not a REAL career', come...let's chat with the doctor over there' etc... ....riiiiight up til the conversation gets to salaries, opportunities and clients etc...
then it's all 'you can earn that much doing this?... you've worked with who?????
If you can sway the parents, and show them it's a legitimate career choice, and that there's lots of opportunities etc... it can often be a successful conversation...but it's quite a big hurdle at the begining... they've already set their minds against it, and it can be hard to open the door....
lol.... yeah.... 100% agreed with you....that's a big NOPE from me as well...
there are so many ways a company can get good user data, testing and feedback etc... why on earth resort to this kind of thing? It's gonna bring nothing but bad press, freaked out people, more users fleeing to things like Figma and Sketch and other products etc...
for whatever 'good' things they think they'll be getting, I can think of a LOT more 'bad'... It's a genuinely horrible idea. I'm tring to picture the meeting where that got 'green-lit' ... I'm not sure I'd fire them outright, but I think a loooooong chat on responsibility, and good governance and 'we don't need more bad press' would be happening for sure ;)
nope...not seeing an image... might be something funky on my side though... I run firefox Nightly, and there are occasional oddities ;)
Adobe is on to you ;)
haven't updated yet... what message?
so much love for all you do Norm. it's installed, and working great!
with any new software, especially when it's a design app like these, there's always going to be a period of time where you HAVE to unlearn a few things from your previous 'software of choice'.
for me, it was photoshop.
the process didn't take long at all for me. Within a few days of tinkering on Figma, i pretty much abandoned photoshop for everything but what it was originally intended..photo manipulation. All design work from that point on I did in Figma.
I'm not saying your experience will be similar to mine. All I can say is that for my purposes (web design, app design, portal design, web-apps etc) it's been a dream come true. Our main issues prior to Figma was distributed dev teams, and how to support them (design-wise) in the best way. Figma solved that instantly with being able to quickly create, share the link, and work directly with a distant dev team (well...not that distant...my buddies were on the other side of the city at a client, and it saved me from dragging my ass all the way over there every day)
when i designed things in photoshop, i was essentially sending them a 'picture' of what i wanted. not the real thing. now with Figma, i can share the link, and they can click on the component, see the markup, CSS or whatever, and instantly use it.
beats the hell out of any other program in that regard.
anyhow, 'your mileage may vary' as they say... I'll admit to being a HUGE figma fan-boy, but i totally get where you're coming from. I resisted Sketch for a LONG time...to the point where when i was 'thinking' about it, it just seemed to steep a hill to climb... all the plugins, all the new commands...yechhhh... i felt that the world had kind of passed my by... and that my over-reliance on photoshop had kind of fenced me in to becoming obsolete. I'd noticed that new UI kits and cool new photoshop plugins had essentially died out... no one was producing much of that any more...
then, a few years ago now, i stumbled on Figma...and it was like (to me) discovering design all over again.
without a doubt the best one I've come across as well. I find it a bit pricey, but there's really nothing else that comes close to this one.
:) you wouldn't believe the grin on my face right now... so happy to be remembered :)
I'm doing just great!
My wife and I (when we met, we'd only been married a year or two) just celebrated our 20th-anniversary last week. My kids are both teenagers now.
I'm with quite a few of the same people I was working with back when we meet at AIGA, doing software design and consulting... the work has been very rewarding, as I've gotten to learn UI/UX over the years, and am able to balance both the Creative Director work (marketing, brand etc) of the company, along with doing some UI/UX work on our product line which has been a tremendous amount of fun.
How about yourself? How's the family?
damn...did i miss you?
no new question here anyhow, just wanted to say thanks for all you've done for the past 2 decades or more now... can't even begin to tell you how much it's all appreciated :)
I had the opportunity to meet you WAY back when, at AIGA in Miami, at the Eden Roc... I think we spoke a few times, and I was the one that spotted you that first night as you were checking in... i confess, as a design geek, the main reason I even went to that event was to get chance to chat with you and see your presentation...
and damn..I still tell people about it to this day.
as i recall, there was some kind of technical glitch, and things weren't working right, so you just started talking to us.... i think it opened up with 'so i was out scoring some crack, and left my baby in the back of the car...and the car was stolen..'
DAMN.... did that ever get everyone's attention.
it was an excellent introduction into the idea of having your website tell a proper story...and it definitely made a huge impression.
anyhow, once again...thanks for everything Jeffery. From the first moment I saw 'steal these icons' and the ad graveyard, i've been a huge fan :)
it's possible the way it formatted kinda ruined the experience ;)
but I stand by the post ... it's Monty Python for goodness sakes :)
a great little sketch inside the movie 'Life of Brian'. just shows how funny it is when there are splits and factions within a community and how easy it is to 'turn' on each other lol... figma vs sketch vs this vs that ... etc etc...
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