22 comments

  • Allan GrinshteinAllan Grinshtein, over 6 years ago

    Shameless.

    11 points
  • Jonathon ToonJonathon Toon, over 6 years ago

    It's amazing how modern digital design is becoming a collection of explicit copy-cats.

    There is nothing undignified with basing a product on something that already exists. But at least try to prioritize improving the foundation you started with.

    3 points
  • Nick WNick W, over 6 years ago

    Food for thought: The creator's twitter avatar[1] vs Dustin's logo[2]

    [1] https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/3166695193/2e066bc9851dca6291bceb536fca1481.jpeg [2] http://www.dustincurtis.com/images/brand/logo.png

    2 points
    • Andrea GrassoAndrea Grasso, over 6 years ago

      Dustin Curtis does not own any copyright over lightnings. Shall I show you a hundred users with lightnings as a profile pic? Really, don't you got something better to do?

      0 points
  • Sorel ArghireSorel Arghire, over 6 years ago

    Ignoring the fact that "Simvla" sounds like some eastern european mythological character, this is just stupid. They make a fool of both themselves and their writers, plus they hurt Svbtle.

    @Andrea, if you want to make an open Svbtle go for it. Copy their philosophy and values, because those are not copyrighted and are meant to inspire, and add the open element. But don't copy their identity, that's stupid/lame/harmful. Is like wearing a wedding dress at somebody's else wedding.

    1 point
    • Andrea GrassoAndrea Grasso, over 6 years ago

      I think that there're real copies out there (i mean wp-svbtle, or this one http://svbtletheme.tumblr.com), Simvla, at least, has a different look while trying to replicate svbtle in an open way.

      That said, I am already working on a complete re-design which will clear this point out once for all.

      0 points
      • Nick WNick W, over 6 years ago

        The svbtle themes copied the svbtle look and feel which is one issue in itself. For what it's worth, I think most copies only cared about the minimal look and were shameless about it.

        In your case, it's not just an "inspired by" theme with a different look, you've copied the whole svbtle product with minor differentiation. Visually, from the typeface, to the like button, to the left rail, it's very clear this is a copy and you've simply tried to do "just enough" so it's not a copy. What bothers me the most is that from a brand/product perspective beyond the visual identity, you've essentially knocked off it's whole position as a high quality content network. You've copied various features even attempt to even use the same style of copy Dustin used for Svbtle while attacking him.

        A visual redesign or a qualifying your statement by saying "we're open" is not a sufficient differentiator. I think a good example of something that takes a similar approach to Svbtle, but hardly tries to plagiarize is Medium.

        On a more positive note, I thought your effort to recreate the editor was cool [1]- but you could have still done that without copying his visual style, or building upon it.

        Is your hosted solution going to be for pay? If so, then I have even more problems with this [2]

        [1] http://faaa.at/ObJ7 [2] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4920662

        2 points
        • Nick WNick W, over 6 years ago

          Argh, no edit feature. I wanted to add: If you're that close to Svbtle, you might as well copy and be proud of it. I don't think your rationale is as solid as you think it is.

          0 points
        • Andrea GrassoAndrea Grasso, over 6 years ago

          Whatever! I am offering a completely FREE service built from scratch on top of rock solid infrastructures to 200+ happy guys and gaI. I am just ok with that.

          0 points
  • Adam KissAdam Kiss, over 6 years ago

    This just brings people not appreciating good design & other people's work to a whole different level.

    Even Rocket Internet adds something to the core ideas they recreate, but this… Oh well.

    1 point
  • Tim Blaney DavidsonTim Blaney Davidson, over 6 years ago

    Hmm, I kinda like it. But i do not know what the other options there are on the web at the moment. What other blogging networks are you referring to? What do you guys think are the best ones out there similar and better than this one?

    1 point
  • Patrik LythellPatrik Lythell, over 6 years ago

    I work in advertising and even I have to turn my eyes in embarrassment. This is probably exactly what "crap artists copy, great artists steal" came from. Run away with it, don't urghfeeeeh with it.

    0 points
  • Daniel HowellsDaniel Howells, over 6 years ago

    Not cool at all.

    0 points
  • Andrea GrassoAndrea Grasso, over 6 years ago

    What's the problem with a "similar" publishing tool with a slightly different approach and feel? Isn't that Svbtle thing something for a closed circle of people? I think that people must be able to say whatever they want to say, that everyone deserves a cleaner experience than what they're used to right now.

    0 points
    • Allan GrinshteinAllan Grinshtein, over 6 years ago

      You're using the word "deserve" is a little too lightly.

      My position is this: you're not entitled to anything unless by some mutual agreement. No one deserves to be able to post on svbtle, or any service for that matter. You have no natural right to say things on other people's networks.

      You're free to agree to the terms of the services you use (even if those terms say that you're not allowed to use the service) or build your own service. That doesn't mean that, a company like Wordpress or tumblr doesn't think it's a great idea to give people free service, but there's no free lunch.

      I love that I can create a tumblr account in two seconds, but the fact that most web services are practically a commodity doesn't make me lose sight of my privilege to use them.

      2 points
    • Adam KissAdam Kiss, over 6 years ago

      Here's the thing: this isn't some guys coming along svbtle and thinking "this is a good way to focus on the important things (re: administration) and to build a network". They didn't create minimalistic blog network.

      What they did, is they copied everything, mainly visual things, and ignored the core idea (minimalistic blogging network) they wanted to build alternative to. They took only visuals, and they got them wrong! (I know what helps minimal design to keep focus on main content: configurable large colorful area used as sidebar. Brilliant!)

      TL;DR: I don't understand why there is anyone, who is pro- these guys. Instead of building good open alternative, they've builty shitty knock-off.

      4 points