What the hell happened with DN?

1 month ago from , User Interface Person

I was just looking for some information on Feltron, and I found this really interesting AMA that he did in here. Then I decided to take a look at the AMA category and found some serious good designers going for it.

Then I jumped into DN homepage to compare, and as I was expecting, all I found were links, links and more links to the same kind of content, which I won't judge but you know what I'm referring to.

I'm wondering what happened with the real constructive design community that used to create valuable content in here. Have they moved to some other platform that I'm not aware of? Why is DN not pushing for more real content in here anymore?

Not trying to start a flamewar, genuinely curious.

71 comments

  • Caleb SylvestCaleb Sylvest, 29 days ago

    DN took a turn for the worse when registration was opened to the public. Hate to say it, but from my view that's what happened.

    Personally, I was moderately involved in the earlier days but lost interest after open enrollment cause it just turned to crappy posts, poor self promotion, and cruft.

    I still peak at the homepage a few times a week, but probably spend <10 seconds scanning the headlines and moving on.

    46 points
    • Scott ThomasScott Thomas, 29 days ago

      When did open registration happen?

      Scanning the AMA's, I am guessing 3 years ago?

      3 points
    • Martin Bavio, 29 days ago

      Personally, I was moderately involved in the earlier days but lost interest after open enrollment cause it just turned to crappy posts, poor self promotion, and cruft.

      It's exactly the same thing for me, kind of sad that it happened organically for me (increment of my lack of interest) and never stopped to wonder until now, which is probably too late.

      Open-enrollment causing ton of crap content, self-promotion and spam is expected, so probably what failed was the lack of decent moderation?

      9 points
    • Daniel GoldenDaniel Golden, 29 days ago

      You hit the nail on the head. I was one of the first hundred users and it was really fanstastic in the glory days, but at some point the owners (which have changed since it's inception) interest moved to other things and DN got less and less attention. It's been coasting downhill ever since then. There are still moderators who help filter the content out (of which I am one) but there's just so much cruft and spam that it's become difficult to do and justify spending the time one.

      Catalin Cimpanu lead the charge on providing great content and moderating content for years. Even more recently when the community began to take a turn for the worse, he was a trooper in modding pretty heavily. Dude doesn't get enough credit for the work and time he invested in this community.

      You basically summed it up though. I honestly don't think the owners care enough at this point to do anything about the seriously downgraded quality in content. No flack, they're probably justified in doing so, it's just a sad reality.

      15 points
      • Martin Bavio, 29 days ago

        I don't understand why Metalab bought the product if they planned to just not care. Like what was the point of it? Brand awareness?

        5 points
        • Eric Chu, 29 days ago

          It wasn't Metalab, it was the founder of it, Andrew, as part of a holding company called Tiny Boards.

          They bought it for the job board. As long as DN gets more users and more views, they will continue to make more money.

          DN is one of many that they've bought: http://tinyboards.co

          11 points
          • Jim SilvermanJim Silverman, 29 days ago

            they think of DN as a job board. tells you all you need to know.

            11 points
          • Martin Bavio, 29 days ago

            I did not know this. This is genuinely sad. Sometimes business just sucks.

            3 points
            • Eric Chu, 29 days ago

              It does suck, but it's necessary.

              If you were running a popular web forum with server/hosting costs, how would you support it? Out of your pocket? Ads? Sponsored posts?

              I do believe more can be done to keep the quality up, but it's not easy. Lots of communities start off great and die a slow and painful death because it takes a lot of care and upkeep.

              3 points
    • Rob MasefieldRob Masefield, 29 days ago

      Nailed it first go.

      To be fair though... it's just followed the pattern of any/all online forums/communities. They launch to a closed or largely curated audience that is passionate about the subject matter and the quality of the input by members.

      The time eventually comes when bugs have been identified and squashed, and enhancements made to the point that it's time to start thinking about how to start making money from the platform in order to pay for keeping the platform up and running.

      Online ads/promos are largely blocked or just perceived/ignored as "white noise" these days, so the only way to attempt to get these promo efforts to cut through on a free site is simply through traffic. The logical way to easily increase the volume of traffic is to open the platform to the public, especially if that platform has already garnered some traction in the media.

      Inevitably, it's at this point that the focused, informed opinion of the closed community quickly becomes diluted by self-promoters and ill-informed attention-seekers.

      It happens time-after-time, forum-after-forum and DN certainly is no different in this regard.

      5 points
    • Parker Peterson, 24 days ago

      This. I've had my account since the beginning and when public registration opened, the quality of the content dropped significantly.

      0 points
  • Catalin CimpanuCatalin Cimpanu, 29 days ago

    Open registration allowed bots, UX experts, and people with crappy taste in design to join.

    The quality of conversations went down because of all the Dribbble-like replies.

    Spammers joined with their shitty UI/UX/design-lifestyle posts.

    I'm a mod. I requested permission to get harder on content quality. I was told that the community would self-moderate and "vote up" quality content. It was not so.

    I'd love to ban half of the DN community because they continuously post shitty content that don't come near the quality standards of the older DN generation, but it's either too late now, or I won't be allowed to put the hammer down as hard as I want to.

    In other words, c'est fini! DN is dead.

    This is really painful to write because I can still remember the hours I spent each week finding cool links to share here. What a f***ing waste of my youth!!!

    38 points
    • Benjamin ValmontBenjamin Valmont, 29 days ago

      I'm curious, what do you feel is wrong with UX experts?

      1 point
    • George Brown, 24 days ago

      I've been telling this for years. Even before DN was a side project for layervault. DN needed downvote. This is autocracy. You can't 'vote up' quality content if you don't have a mechanism to eliminate trash.

      People does have rights to NOT like things. Having only up-vote is an authoritarian behavior. An ideology definitely does not belong to a design scene. Maybe technically it's impossible to implement downvote. Search feature can't be fixed for years, so why not down vote?

      I also noticed while the quality getting low for the last couple of yrs, people's ego became more fragile and fragile. I remember people were flamed and torn away even on DN just because some person was literally constructively criticizing the work itself. Same is happened to me couple of times. That's why I stopped commenting, even checking it out. It's been 2 weeks since I've checked DN.

      ¯_(ツ)_/¯

      1 point
  • Aaron D, 29 days ago

    What happened? Andrew Wilkinson happened. Much like Dribbble, his acquisition of Designer News quickly turned DN from a well-curated culture of design thought leadership and discussion into a monetized popularity contest.

    25 points
    • Martin Bavio, 29 days ago

      Would be nice to have Andrew's version in here, but I'm not even sure he'll even notice this post, unfortunately.

      Dribbble always was a popularity contest, right?

      13 points
      • Andrew WilkinsonAndrew Wilkinson, 29 days ago

        @Martin - Thanks for the nudge.

        Guys: I am so sorry you feel that DN has devolved. My/our version of events would be that we acquired it, rebuilt it from the ground up, redesigned it, made a ton of feature improvements, but then got a little sidetracked with the Dribbble acquisition and haven't had a chance to do more with DN.

        I would really like to see what we can do to improve DN and am all ears if any of you have any ideas, want to push some initiatives, etc. Also open to having community members help build/improve the site (paid of course) and adding more mods.

        Please feel free to reply here, tweet at me (@awilkinson) or email me (andrew@metalab.co).

        Sorry you guys feel we blew it. That sucks.

        39 points
        • Arix KingArix King, 28 days ago

          Hi Andrew!

          Thanks for taking the time to address the concerns within the community. I have a few thoughts I'd like to share—of which, others will hopefully reply and iterate. Here we go...


          1. Downvoting

          The lack of downvoting, as others have mentioned, doesn't provide any means of letting the community self-regulate. With the current up-vote only system, the only way to get low-value posts off the front page is to wait until they decay out. This—I would assume—creates a negative feedback loop with users who want good content: they come, there's nothing good, they can't easily help get rid of the bad content, they leave feeling hopeless. This breaks the habit of coming back over time and erodes the "quality users" that the community originally built around. It's a downward spiral.

          Solution — Add a downvote button and sort the front page based on volume of postive upvotes with a slight decay over time function. Posts with a "-X" voting are automatically deleted or archived. There's a lot of opinions in design, so let's say something around -25, with nothing below -5 being on the homepage.

          2. Posting Rights

          In an effort to cut down on bots/spam while keeping the community open, the posting rights should be more strict. Currently, you only need to have an account active for ~1 weeks time before you're allowed to post (if I'm remembering correctly).

          Solution — Prevent users with <50 karma make new topics/posts. To earn karma, users can comment on thread and have their comments upvoted there to reach the threshold. I would hope this stimulates quality engagement as well.

          3. Discovery

          This may be more of a fault of the community, but I'd be willing to argue a very small fraction of the community is actively digging through the "New" page and upvoting content so that it will reach the homepage. God bless those people, but this siloing of discovery can't be good for content curation. It's also probably why it only takes ~5 upvotes to get near the top of the homepage. Simply not enough people are digging through the new stuff!

          Solution — To be honest, I'm really not sure how to solve this. Perhaps make the "Popular/New" difference more prominent and forward? Half the time, you barely even notice those tabs. Hoping others will have more feedback here.


          That in mind, there's some other things that I'm just kind of confused about:

          1. DN Podcast – It hasn't been added to in over a year. Could it be spun up again? Could it be archived in a less prominent place on the site if not?

          2. Color Awards – This is a super fun and enganging element of DN that I fell in love with. Unfortunately, the prospect isn't huge. For new users (who won't get the beta colors, etc.), you pretty much can only earn these colors via karma benchmarks. Then—when you do—they are pretty much just greys. Maybe more colors/means of earning them?

          3. Post Badges – These are helpful, but I think they could be more specific or have a broader variety? Looking at the homepage right now, it's more or less a sea of "SHOW DN"; what's the point if there's not really any differentiation?


          Ok—so that's a lot to unpack, but those are the three biggest issue I see personally. I'm sure others have more ideas on how to polish these solutions, too, so hopefully we can get this community back on track together! :) Thanks again for listening!

          45 points
          • Gabriel AnghelGabriel Anghel, 28 days ago

            I think your suggestions are really good, will love to see them implemented. I did think DN was a good platform at first but over time it became very hard to see good content here ,I personally found a good facebook group that does what DN did a while back. Frankly i think it's a shame. DN should be more community focused, with good content.

            1 point
          • Lee HordLee Hord, 28 days ago

            Some really good ideas there Arix. I have a thought about Post Badges too. I think they should work more like filters. I too get frustrated by the number of SHOW DN posts on the homepage. I do occasionally look at them, but only when they have a significant number of upvotes or comments.

            If I could turn off certain badges that I'm not interested in, that would certainly go a long way to seeing just the content I care about.

            1 point
          • Sean LesterSean Lester, 28 days ago

            These are good and necessary improvements that need to have already been implemented before activity tanked. Say you get these improvements — most of them are around restricting content... but part of the reason for poor front page content isn't JUST that you can't downvote it off (though I agree this is a legitimate problem) but also the lack of high-quality content to take its place. SOMETHING has to be on the front page, and with so few engaged designers with something valuable to share, that means the spammers and content marketers have an easy job of it.

            What I'm getting at is, these ideas are good but will they revitalize the community? Something has to be done to bring back the people who have given up on this place.

            I also am not a fan of the "be nice or else" moderation — though I understand why some may disagree. The conflict and controversy creates activity and discussion. It isn't a surprise to me that enforcing a "be nice" atmosphere leads to low activity... particularly in a community that so loathes the Dribbble style of vacuous compliment comments. We should of course have some standards for behavior as any community should, but we should also aim to be tolerant of critical or dissenting attitudes and discussion — even if the spirit of those discussions may become sometimes mean.

            0 points
          • George Brown, 24 days ago

            Downvotes. For years, I've been repeating myself to have downvotes and I always get flamed even accused to being a 'redditor' lol.

            That's why we need downvotes. If ppl doesn't like something, they shouldn't be forced to take their 'happy pills'.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI

            0 points
        • Martin BavioMartin Bavio, 28 days ago

          @Andrew:

          In my opinion, it's not a technology problem, as there's no need to create new features to fix it. The kind of content is what needs to change.

          When Kelly and Allan were around taking care of that, I feel like they worried more about the quality of the content, not only by applying moderation but also by leading the community with efforts to have better content (AMAs, giveaways, etc). Feel to me like they really cared about the content in here. And so the community cared.

          Don't get me wrong, most of the improvements that Arix suggested are great and probably could help the site, but the real change that I'd like to see in here is for you and those 30 people that you mentioned to contribute in here as if you really care about the quality and outcome of your baby. I know you adopted it, but it's still your baby.

          2 points
    • A Paul, 29 days ago

      Andrew Wilkinson craves power and control. He loves that he controls these sites and has the power to do nothing with them.

      7 points
      • Davin M., 29 days ago

        A "Published by Andrew Wilkinson" tagline was put in the footer immediately after DN was bought.

        2 points
      • Andrew WilkinsonAndrew Wilkinson, 29 days ago

        And worst of all, the servers we use to run DN are powered by the tears of designers! Muahhahhahahhahahaha

        Seriously though, I would love to understand why you think I'm Mr. Burns reincarnate. We have grown Dribbble from a team of 10 to 30+ people, the majority of whom are focused on building new features and growing the community. Definitely not doing nothing—we are pushing full steam ahead and are all ears to hear any feedback you guys have.

        24 points
        • Nelson TarucNelson Taruc, 29 days ago

          Andrew, FWIW I really like the state of DN today. Is the content always awesome? No, but the content upvoting gives me a look into what other designers are endorsing. More importantly, I'm always free to choose what I want to read and ignore. It's a great site to get the pulse of other designers and see what everyone's talking about (i.e. this thread).

          Anyway, I think it's cool that a lot of passionate designers have strong opinions about DN (it would be much worse for you if no one cared any more). I respect you for responding to a few of them.

          Thanks for keeping DN running!

          2 points
        • Ken M (No, not that one)Ken M (No, not that one), 28 days ago

          If DN is awesome and there is a such a big staff, why is it so difficult to fix things like the dingus that used to alert someone when a link has already been posted? Judging by the duplication of content and from member comments, it's seems like that has been broken for a long time. Also, why does it often take days to remove spam? A mod had commented a while back that they don't have control over that and it's up to the devs to remove spam. That seems crazy. That's part of a mod's responsibility.

          2 points
        • Sean LesterSean Lester, 28 days ago

          Yeah, I think the blame on you is a bit misplaced — the community quality was already declining before your acquisition, and with Layer Vault tapping out it seems much more to me like you saved this place as an investment in the design community as a whole, or maybe a statement about your commitment to it.

          Obviously, there is more that could be done to keep DN alive / revitalize it, but what is a community for if not taking grassroots ownership over its own fate and character.

          The Tiny Boards site is kind of damning. It's like "We buy job boards, look at our job boards... Job board, job board, job board... news site? :)"

          I get that from a business perspective this may be a job board with a content marketing play, but that only works if it isn't transparent and your commitment to the content marketing part (the community itself) is serious.

          1 point
          • Andrew WilkinsonAndrew Wilkinson, 28 days ago

            Totally hear you on the Tiny Boards site. We don’t view DN as a job board, but the job board there is one of the job boards we own, so the team there decided to list it. DN is still listed on the core Tiny site—we view it as an individual company :-)

            0 points
        • Cristian MoiseiCristian Moisei, 28 days ago

          I was just about to take your side on this before you reminded us you also own dribbble. I respect MetaLab and like the work you guys do, but the communities you run are, in their current state and in my humble opinion, more harmful to our industry than they are beneficial.

          About dribbble

          You may have tripled dribbble's team size, but how exactly has that translated into benefits for the designer community? Aside from that time you gated off some features behind a paywall, there weren't any substantial change since Tiny took over. When dribbble first started, it was minor site intended for people to publish small snippets of their work and cool design experiments they thought of, so its structure of one 300x400 image + some text made sense. Today however it has evolved into the second largest community for designers and in my opinion (and primarily because of the way it is structured and the sort of content it encourages) it has helped create the wrong idea about design in the eyes of both designers starting out and clients/bosses/colleagues. I for one have chosen to no longer take part - it's not like I got anything out of dribbble anyway.

          I've said it a million times and I'll say it again, what we need is a community built to support healthy conversations around how we each solve problems in our organisations. Not a 300x400 shot of a nike shoe, but a ton of details about what the goal of a project was, who the intended audience is, what the process was and what options were tested, how well the design performed, and then ways to incentives the community to join in and discuss the merits of the design, possible alternatives, etc. That way designers just starting out will have a much easier time learning (and learning the right things), and people outside the industry will do less assuming all we do is make pretty shit in PS all day.

          About DN

          I think DN is equally poorly designed for how big it has become today. Its structure may have served it well back when it was invite only, but now that everyone is welcome, it needs to change. See my comment below about it, or any of the previous conversations on the topic. Or this.

          So what I'd be curios to know, is how do you understand Tiny's role in the design community and what specific plans do you have for the future?

          5 points
          • Shawn Adrian, 25 days ago

            I still love Dribbble and most of the designers I know still love it and use it as intended... for sharing and viewing fragments of lovely visual work as inspiration. I like your idea about a community for deeper conversations, but maybe it's not Dribbble. How about using DN that way?

            0 points
    • Nikhil Vootkur, 29 days ago

      I think dribbble turned into that way before the Tiny acquisition

      2 points
    • Sacha GreifSacha Greif, 29 days ago

      And what's more, he somehow managed to single-handedly accomplish this evil goal without even changing the site itself in any meaningful way! Just goes to show how nefarious he really is…

      14 points
  • Cristian MoiseiCristian Moisei, 29 days ago

    I think there are two sides to the problem:

    1. The platform itself is poorly designed. I don't know what the infrastructure of a healthy community is supposed to look like, but this is not it. The lack of a downvote button, the lack of a more complex system of categories to attract different types of conversations and users, the lack of clear rules for the type of content to post in each category and moderators to properly enforce it are all possible candidates. I think the structure of the platform itself is enforcing the sort of behaviour we see - it's too simple for the size and expectations its users have. It's closer to Sidebar or WebDesignernews (both newsletters, not communities).

    2. We suck. While I understand that we're all busy and we have different skill levels, work in different industries and different fields, nobody ever cares to engage with the few people who ask for advice or critique (a critique section was asked for a million times and is another example of poor platform design, but it doesn't really stop anyone from sharing critique with those fewer and fewer designers asking for it), people looking to get advice on work problems or design choices or generally do anything other than discuss the latest Sketch update, latest design tool fad or sharing their dribbble shot. We can pretend all we want, design has not evolved into the mature field it could have been and the people practicing it today aren't helping.

    19 points
  • Sacha GreifSacha Greif, 29 days ago

    I'm wondering what happened with the real design community that used to create valuable content in here. Have they moved to some other platform that I'm not aware of?

    Oh, this is awkward… you… didn't get your invite? We were pretty sure we sent it. Must've gotten lost in the mail? We'll invite you for sure though, don't worry. I mean, it's a pretty exclusive community but I'm almost positive that you made the cut. Maybe just give it a couple more days. Or weeks or months. But you'll definitely get in. I think.

    – The Cool Designers Community

    17 points
    • Martin Bavio, 29 days ago

      Hey Sasha, first of all, I'd like to point out that I'm a big fan of your work and old Sidebar subscriber.

      I'm failing to understand the point of your comment. Are you trying to tell me in a very passive-aggressive way that you didn't like my question? I could understand how somebody could disagree with my point of view, but I see no reason to be snarky about it. Be nice, or else, you know?

      Hope you have a great day.

      10 points
      • Sacha GreifSacha Greif, 29 days ago

        I just thought it was funny to imagine everybody secretly moving to a different community without you knowing about it, like the cool kids not telling you about the after party or something.

        The truth is that the feeling that a community "was better before" is as old as online communities themselves. Complaining about it is like writing angry letters to your local weather station because it's getting colder in November.

        16 points
        • Dan Winer, 29 days ago

          It was funny and the link was interesting, TIL. Also the irony of creating worthless content in order to complain about the lack of "valuable content" is wonderful.

          4 points
        • Martin Bavio, 29 days ago

          Still feeling the same kind of tone. Which in a way, validates my initial sentence, because if you, one of the beacons of this community (at least to me), can only contribute with this kind of content, then it's probably time to reconsider what the hell is happening.

          Regarding your link, I'm familiar with the concept, it doesn't only apply to online communities. That's why I tried to explain with facts my reasoning to ask the rest of the community.

          Oh, and I did not talk about cool kids, that's something that came up from your own imagination. I asked for those positive and willing to share designers that used to contribute with real valuable content in here, in order to inspire people like me to keep learning. Big difference if you ask me.

          Thanks for trying to explain yourself, Sacha. I still think you could have done a better job, but it's a free world, so no worries.

          4 points
      • Liam WheatonLiam Wheaton, 25 days ago

        Hey, I know I'm late to the party (ironic in a way, considering I don't prioritize browising Designer News and it's content anymore)

        Search Designer Hangout, I think it's the place you're looking for. The forums aren't used much but they have a slack channel which is where the magic is.

        It's invite only

        and cool designers only (sorry Sacha) /s

        One disclaimer: seeing as the community has formed around the slack channel it's a lot more conversation oriented than something like DN, dribbble, reddit etc. In a way I believe this is one of the strong points though because you get everything Cristian Moisei mentioned in his post further up "Not a 300x400 shot of a nike shoe—but a ton of details about what the goal of a project was, who the intended audience is, what the process was and what options were tested, how well the design performed, and then ways to incentives the community to join in and discuss the merits of the design, possible alternatives, etc."

        It's also heavily moderated in favor of good/helpful content (Oh and it has an AMA channel)

        Peace, hope to see you there

        0 points
  • Steven CavinsSteven Cavins, 29 days ago

    The signal/noise ratio is getting worse over time. I think this community can be incredibly supportive when it needs to be but also very drive-by snarky (the latter keeps it mostly male oriented.)

    First day registration comments are really lousy too. I've seen posts introducing products or designs that were infiltrated by fellow coworkers just blatantly shaming the community without any context about the general vibe of the place. It's not really a great place to swoop into a tribe you know nothing about and begin virtue signaling like a missionary (or worse yet, eventually hopping on twitter to get virtue points from their tribe).

    I earnestly like to read about software updates, learn about bugs and features and such, and that stuff keeps me around. There's also some smart people around with good feedback at times as well for whatever.

    And yeah, sorry, but making fun of a really poorly written, self-serving Medium post can be pretty enjoyable, but all that said, if you compare DN to Twitter, we're really not that bad, just less engaged.

    9 points
  • Zethus SuenZethus Suen, 29 days ago

    Go to https://spectrum.chat/explore and click the Design tab.

    6 points
    • Martin Bavio, 29 days ago

      Yeah, I've been using Spectrum for like a month, somehow it doesn't feel the same and I'm not as nearly excited as I was when DN just launched. Do you feel the content is different in there? Where?

      8 points
  • Andrew C, 27 days ago

    There isn’t a community on the internet without someone claiming it’s all gone to hell. If you want better or more content then simply post better or more content.

    The only annoying thing I find about DN are the blatant content marketing plants by Figma and other new design tools. Even then I don’t mind — they’re just trying to make their ambitions work.

    4 points
  • Kamushken RomanKamushken Roman, 29 days ago

    4 points
  • Myriam C.Myriam C., 29 days ago

    I was wondering the same thing myself some days ago. I barely follow DN now. Some years ago the content was great and I always learn new things, or see intelligent Ask DN and follow the conversations. People shared cool websites. Now, all I see is articles of Medium and self-promoted portfolios. So I'm going to medium by myself and fly over DN from time to time.

    That's kind of sad. :(

    3 points
  • Thomas Michael SemmlerThomas Michael Semmler, 29 days ago

    I have tried to post a rather lengthy comment, but its truncating 80% of it. It wasn't even that long... Apparently my views aren't tolerated anymore on here. :/

    3 points
  • Roman Pohorecki, 28 days ago

    Here's a great chance for someone to redesign DN, make a case study on Medium, and post the link to DN.

    Meanwhile, I think this site is great. I check in everyday for a few minutes and maybe find a design resource or interesting post. If the content doesn't fit your needs look elsewhere or work on posting good stuff.

    2 points
    • Martin Bavio, 28 days ago

      But the problem is not the aesthetics of DN, it's the content.

      It's nice that a few minutes is good enough for you. Means that you could be really astonished if the site made you stay for like a half an hour. That's how it used to be when there was content coming out of it.

      3 points
  • Daniel HaimDaniel Haim, 28 days ago

    We all got jobs!

    1 point
  • Ken M (No, not that one)Ken M (No, not that one), 26 days ago

    More great DN content: https://www.designernews.co/stories/94733-elawoman

    1 point
  • Ryan MurphyRyan Murphy, 28 days ago

    Why not just merge DN with Dribbble

    Use the community employees already at Dribbble. They have massive crossover in content and audience. Dribbble News - done.

    1 point
    • Sean LesterSean Lester, 28 days ago

      The community that everyone wants back hates the culture of Dribbble comments, so I think that would be undesirable, unless you were being ironic.

      3 points
      • Sven LoskillSven Loskill, 24 days ago

        Second that. Toothless shoulderpatting has a perfect home at Dribbble, no need for a duplicate.

        1 point
  • ChrisArchitec t, 29 days ago

    yeah it might be more of a link roll of daily stuff - but I do find when there's some new interesting project stuff released by a notable, I'm pleasantly surprised when the actual designer pops into the discussion. People are around, keeping an eye, just not like always discussing etc. As always, before DN and after, stuff still happens out on Twitter etc. I use it as a place to share breaking design developments (ahem, news) and keep abreast of anything fresh out there

    1 point
  • Ken M (No, not that one)Ken M (No, not that one), 28 days ago

    This handy link to USA Today is just one example of the quality "content" being posted to DN these days: https://www.designernews.co/stories/94724-usa-today-in-europe-after-gdpr

    0 points
  • Jan SemlerJan Semler, 29 days ago

    I am not one of the early members of DN. I joined 2 years ago. I have to say it is hard to find cool discussion on DN. DN is so cluttered with the publishings of contributions for self-presentation. If i want to get inspiration i go to dribbble/behance/awwwards and so on. I go to DN to discuss/discover new technologys of our field. Not to see/talk to people who celebrate their own work.

    It is like Dribbble/Behance but without preview image. Would be nice to have some sort of private areas where people can share their links. If any one has interesst to build a clone i am happy with that. Just ping me i am happy to help.

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  • Ryan GloverRyan Glover, 24 days ago

    Starting with ourselves—not blaming the DN folks—is best. I've never seen so much whining and bitching in one place in my life.

    Want better content? Post better content.

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  • Ken M (No, not that one)Ken M (No, not that one), 22 days ago

    More wonderful content: https://www.designernews.co/stories/94882-i-updated-my-figma-design-system-with-recent-material-2018-guidelines

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