Why is this the best time to move to Brasov, Romania - A digital HR campaign (movetobrasov.com)
almost 5 years ago from Mihai Gota, UX Designer @ MicroD
almost 5 years ago from Mihai Gota, UX Designer @ MicroD
I think that first screen gave me a seizure.
Yeah, not good :d
Interesanta idee, si bine facut site-ul.
So... should I? xD
You should at least visit it and see how you like it. I loved it but I wouldn't live there for more than one year (it's a fairly small city)
Haha I imagined so if they needed to make a website just to make some weak arguments to convince people to move there. They must be having difficulty finding talent. I work in Paris right now so I think I might find it difficult to make such a huge change...
How are you finding Paris though?
I love it but I'm currently seeking new opportunities, willing to move just about anywhere (except America) or stay here.
London is where it's in terms of opportunities in my opinion, but as far as actually living here, it's not nearly as nice as France.
Romania has its advantages too, while the design sector is really underdeveloped (like most of the country), we have really good Computer Science schools, which produce good developers, which attract a lot of big foreign companies like Amazon or MS (though not in Brasov to my knowledge, the hubs are Bucharest or Iasi). This means that if you can find a good company to hire you and pay a western salary, you can live like a king. Romanian culture shares some similarities with French culture, we used to have a thing for copying everything you do in the 19th century, so you might feel more at home than say in the UK. But again, it's not the most developed place in Europe.
London is definitely at the top of my list, despite Brexit, because I feel very at home in British culture. But it will be difficult for me to secure a work visa there.
France is great for the social benefit and overall quality of life and I can stay here for another 4 years without needing sponsorship, so it's easiest to stay here. The problem is designer salaries are not brilliant compared to the cost of living (at least here in Paris which is where nearly all the design jobs in France are located), much like London.
What are designer salaries like in Romania compared to the cost of living? Would they give me a western salary, or would they be paying me at an eastern European level?
So you are not originally from Europe? If you have a EU passport, the Brexit deal (as it stands today) is that for as long as you are in the UK when the deadline hits, nothing will change for you and you will have 5 years to get citizenship (same as before). If you leave or come after the deadline, you will be subject to regular immigration rules.
In Romania it depends on what sort of company you work for (i.e. who their clients are). If it's a Romanian agency serving Romanian clients, they'll pay Eastern salaries. If it's a Western company, they'll pay a lot more (though clearly not as much as salaries in London or Paris for example, they are there to save money after all). I mostly know about developers though, I don't personally know any designer in Romania. The guys who made this campaign might be able to tell you that.
Romanian culture and British culture are pretty different however, so if you feel more at home here, London would be your best bet. I found salaries here are proportional to the living costs and there is a huge concentration of companies.
Nope, I am American. And yeah, I know about the Brexit rules, but I fear they will change in the next few years as the Tory government doesn't really know what the fuck it's doing.
Thanks for the information. Maybe I'll send this agency a cheeky message and poke around. Otherwise, I expect I'll be applying in the usual places: Paris, London, Berlin, etc.
Why'd you leave the US? I've never been but aside from it being an awful place to live, I would have thought there are a lot more opportunities there - I mean that's where all the money is, where all the big names are.
A thousand reasons. Mostly for my happiness and the fact that I dislike America. I don't value money nearly as much as I do my work/life balance and benefits.
Makes sense. To me it always seemed like the UK is the closest thing to the US in Europe. They are not nearly as socialist as say France or the nordic countries, much more heavily focused on work and profits. Don't get me wrong, I think things are not nearly as extreme as they are in the US, but still not quite the same attitude you'd find in Europe.
I'm aware. I've been to the UK a lot (was just in London and Brighton last weekend). But the culture and people are definitely something I feel close to on a personal level. Professionally, we'll have to see.
You might want to add Copenhagen to your list; I've been living here for a couple of years and It's amazing. There are plenty of companies looking for skilled designers and developers.
Really? Where did you find them? When I was looking for a job I considered Copenhagen (I agree, it's awesome), but I couldn't find any jobs. Just one startup who ended up not being interested.
It could be because the cool companies don't post their open positions on job directories. If you find out about a company, try looking for their LinkedIn status updates. That's where the open positions will be listed. I assume they do it to avoid receiving applications from too many job hunters who don't actually care about the company.
Also, you greatly increase your chances of finding a job by having a professional network. Know the right people and you'll find a job easily. This is a bit challenging tho, since you need to build your network first.
If you want a secret resource, search for Dansk Dynamit on Google. You'll find jobs much easier there.
Thank you, I'll keep that in mind. I'm happy with my current job at the moment, but it always helps knowing where (or how) to look.
I have looked there in the past and I know it's a cool place. But you've got an EU passport, I assume? Know any companies there willing to sponsor an American?
I would say you shouldn't worry too much about sponsorship (unless the company is really small) - but I have an EU passport so I can't really offer you too much insight into this. But I know Airtame and Zendesk would probably help you out if they are interested in hiring you :)
Haha, I have gone through the sponsorship process here in France, trust me it is always something to worry about. :) Thanks for the info!
Yes you should :)
So I should apply for a job I know nothing about?
Really cool idea! Congrats guys :)
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