14 comments

  • Rami JamesRami James, 3 months ago

    I have to say that I've given up on Apple being able to produce what I want: a high-powered machine for developers which has high build quality and no gimmicks.

    I don't want touchbars. I don't want to lose ports and carry a bag full of dongles.

    I want a keyboard that feels nice.

    Why is this so hard?

    8 points
    • Suganth SSuganth S, 3 months ago

      Did you try the iMac Pro? it's definitely one of the powerful machines I've tried that kinda meets up your expectations if you don't want to wait for Mac Pro?

      0 points
      • , 3 months ago

        No doubt a great machine. The price is rather steep. But the problem I have is the limited shelf life you can expect when everything is glued to the display.

        I have 8Core Mac Pro with 32GB RAM from 2008. No longer using it for work but it is still running strong. It the best mac I ever had.

        I've also had 4 Mac Books Pros since 2008. Two of them died after 3 years of use.

        Is the iMac more like the Mac Books or more like the Mac Pro? Right now I'm not betting my money on it :)

        0 points
      • Aaron Wears Many HatsAaron Wears Many Hats, 3 months ago

        The price for that machine is beyond a joke, even in an enterprise environment.

        2 points
      • Rami JamesRami James, 3 months ago

        It's not an option. I work from home and go to the office once in a while. I need my workspace mobile.

        0 points
      • John PJohn P, 3 months ago

        Did you try the iMac Pro?

        5 grand starting for a disposable workstation?

        Who can afford to "try" such an absurd, idiotic and frivolous thing other than Casey Neistat. You can literally get over double the computing power with a custom build for half the price and wont have to throw the thing out if a single component breaks 5 years down the line.

        1 point
    • Todd CantleyTodd Cantley, 3 months ago

      I completely agree. The new macbook pros are terrible in so many different ways. What the fuck were they thinking?

      1 point
      • Mattan IngramMattan Ingram, 3 months ago

        I find the hate of the new MBPs rather confusing.

        The ports are fantastic, now instead of having to unplug 5 different cords just to bring my laptop to a meeting, I can unplug one or two multiport-dongles and I'm free.

        Touchbar is take-it-or-leave-it but has in no way negatively impacted my workflow, and on occasion I do appreciate the more subtle edits I can do in the Photos app with it.

        The keyboard is subjective I guess, but again hasn't slowed down my WPM, personally feels nicer than the older MBP tiny keys, and gets less gunk trapped between the keys.

        0 points
        • Todd CantleyTodd Cantley, 3 months ago

          My wife is a professional photographer and we travel quite a lot. She now needs three dongles, one which has corrupted 2SD cards, and two others which for some reason slow down any USB device you plug into it (HDD or Stick). When you're travelling every little thing to remember quickly adds up and losing these dongles is expensive and annoying. Also when working on a plane, which she does frequently, you dont want dongles sticking out into the person next to you.

          The touchbar feels horrible, and is less accurate than the buttons it replaced for things like volume and brightness. Personally I dont see any use for it as a screen, but that is subjective too.

          The keyboard feels horrible to use and one of the keys keeps sticking, so she has to copy and paste the letter E, which as you can imagine gets tiring. Also, just running lightroom and a browser constantly spins the fans and drains the battery quicker than her old 5 year old macbook pro.

          Not having magsafe seems like a step backwards, as they were damn near perfect as far as adapters go.

          She couldn't plug in her new (at the time) iphone 7 to it because the ports didnt match.

          So yeah, theres a few reasons why I think apple really dropped the ball with the new macbooks. It's a bit shit really.

          0 points
          • Mattan IngramMattan Ingram, 3 months ago

            I'm not sure how the touchbar is less accurate? You can do more subtle changes on the touchbar than with a physical key which changes the value in relatively large iterations.

            I have heard about the keyboard getting sticky for some people. I haven't had the issue myself but I'm not surprised that a new keyboard type has some growing pains. The first version of the unibody Macbook Pro from a few years ago also had some issues that were ironed out. It's the risk of buying first generation of new hardware.

            I agree about magsafe, but to be honest I never actually tripped over my laptop cord. I think it was more of a nice thought than a necessity.

            The iPhone thing was annoying for me too, but so was the first iMac when it replaced all serial ports with USB-A only. Everyone complained about it then, but now we are thankful Apple pushed so hard for universal USB (and then went stupid with Firewire).

            I see this following the same pattern as most Apple product releases. We just quickly forget how annoying the first iteration of a product was (remember the first iPad?).

            0 points
            • Todd CantleyTodd Cantley, 3 months ago

              The first generation of the ipad didnt take away features that worked perfectly fine, so no real reason which is why nobody really brings that up.

              Regarding the touchbar i mean, if you want to bump the volume up, its pretty easy to whack that button a couple of times on the older design. On the new one, you have to hold it down and slide it around and as there is no tactile feedback you slide all over the place. It just seems like the answer to a question nobody asked.

              0 points
  • , 3 months ago

    Nice story about the Mac Pro design team working with industry pros. Still terribly long wait for the new Mac Pro. Anyone wants to make a prediction how much it will cost? More than the iMac Pro?

    1 point
    • John PJohn P, 3 months ago

      design team working with industry pros

      What an outlandish and innovative idea, why hasn't anyone else been doing this?

      oh....

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  • John PJohn P, 3 months ago

    I swear to god if it's been delayed to gamble on shipping ARM in it.....

    Although I've already moved to PC and enjoying the power (Ryzen and Nvidia make Apples offerings look like a joke) so wont be considering this until they prove they'll still support it 3-4 years down the line.

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