6 years ago from emily carlin, product designer at you need a budget (ynab)
I am debating whether or not it's worth it to pay $25.00 for the beta - is anyone using it? Do you like it? Is the only cool thing about it the way that it handles layouts? If so, how does it compare in that respect to Sketch resizing/Figma constraints/Framer auto-layout?
Thanks DN!
Its so frustrating watching all this play out in slow mo. We desperately need tools like this and the current offering is still focused on drawing out UI.
Animation, interaction, systems, code, are all left to other products but that needs to be integrated into one tool.
Hurry up tool makers! :)
It's not as easy to use as other tools that provide constraints, but the use of real data is what I want to implement into my designs. Can't wait for further development.
Gonna plug our product Launchpad since this is exactly what we're doing. We just released animations too: https://medium.com/sketch-app-sources/how-to-create-a-hamburger-menu-for-your-website-a23f87f5d8b3
$25 for a beta? Really?
There've been huge waves when Subform surfaced. I'm curious about it, so if you decide to try it out – please write a review.
UPD: I've received an invite – it's $25/month.
Are you saying you should not have to pay for a beta? For software devs, charging money during beta is an effective way of filtering out tire-kickers and users who are just looking for a free ride anyways. Beta testers come with overhead, so having fewer more dedicated users works out better anyways.
I went to Subform website and there's no 25 bucks. I would pay to test it. Money is not the problem if, they deliver what they promise.
Those who are beta testing is it a worth tool?
It's worth giving it a try. Definitely forces you to work within constraints, and there's some really cool stuff you can do as far as responsiveness (obv now in Sketch, Figma, and the like - at the time it was cool) and thinking about elements in regard to parent-child relationships. I backed it on Kickstarter and was one of the first people to get the newest alpha (before it became a beta) and test it for them. I found myself actually looking for certain functionality as far as exports, imports of svgs and images, all stuff they're continually working on. They're definitely devoted to making the product great. It's just meant to be a different tool than Sketch / Figma.
I was an early backer on Kickstarter and played with it when it came out.
One thing, I never could quite grasp the how or why it’s relevant that it’s a “Cad-Inspired Tool” -
It looked promising, and they hit a lot of important notes, but it’s just not for me.
Though there is some redundancy and bad/ lazy habits in the Sketch workflow, I’m a bit spoiled by it.
I felt like Sub-Form made me “think too much” - in that - the tool got in the way.
Hi everyone, co-creator of Subform here. We're actively beta testing Subform with a small group of designers and shipping new releases every two weeks. We're still just a two-person team, so we're expanding access slowly to keep things manageable for ourselves. :)
Now that we've got the foundations in place, we're primarily focused on sanding off the rough edges, improving usability, and incorporate beta tester feedback. More soon!
Please give us access to the beta. I even offer Spanish translation for the 1.0 :)
The sign up to find out more was cute a year ago during the kickstarter. Now it's worrisome. Is that where they hit you with the $25 beta signup?
Also curious, give us an update when you pull the trigger.
Only if you are curious. You wont move over from Sketch. The tool is just too clunky. They've also removed the data driven-ness that was one of its selling points in the kickstarter (for me anyway). To focus on other things.
Nice layout engine though. Wish they had something similar in Sketch.
How their layout engine in comparison to Auto-Layout and Stacks?
More setup and planning required. But so much more powerful. Its really amazing.
I backed it on kickstarter which gave access to their beta message boards. It seems like the community is somewhat active and development has been consistent but I personally haven't tried to incorporate it into my work because it still feels too unstable. Since I backed subform I've also started to use Figma which has worked out really nicely for me.
I've only just discovered this and it does look pretty great. Needless to say, it's worrying to see how quiet their social has became...
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