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Abstract (abstract.com)

2 years ago from , Product Designer

61 comments

  • Grzegorz CiwoniukGrzegorz Ciwoniuk, 2 years ago

    PARTY

    Also,

    should designers git?

    24 points
    • Josh BrewerJosh Brewer, 2 years ago

      Nah, they should Abstract ;)

      7 points
    • Art SevaniArt Sevani, 2 years ago

      one word, Plant! https://plantapp.io Best version control tool for designers.

      plantapp.gif

      Haven't used abstract, but Plant takes care of the job seamlessly

      18 points
      • Matt GalliganMatt Galligan, 2 years ago

        Sure, it takes care of the job in the same way that LayerVault took care of it years ago. And takes care of it in the same way that Dropbox takes care of it, with some additional GUI and features.

        But Abstract is not the basic version control that you find here. It's way more feature rich and frankly, more powerful. We're not just talking about one file evolving over time where you can look back at old versions. Branches add a whole new dimension to design collaboration. You can keep the Master file safe and clean, which acts as your single source of truth. Then branch from there to explore and work on new things without affecting the source of truth for engineers, etc.

        Abstract also handles conflicts beautifully rather than having to worry about whether my changes will override someone else who's actively working within the file too.

        1 point
        • Art SevaniArt Sevani, 2 years ago

          It is completely different than what anyone has ever done. Maybe you haven't tried Plant because your description is incorrect regarding how It works. It's not about being feature rich especially features that are not designed right. Plant has some amazing features and more coming soon and it's already adding some of them as we speak, but it's about doing it right. With Plant I do not have to think about anything else besides my work, it just works.

          3 points
    • Diego LafuenteDiego Lafuente, 2 years ago

      git commit -m "YOLO" git push origin master --force

      0 points
  • Joshua TurnerJoshua Turner, 2 years ago

    Greatest application of a CSS animation ever?

    14 points
    • Jake Lazaroff, 2 years ago

      "Hey Bob, is the site ready?"

      "Not yet, Alice — I just can't get this damn bird to move right!"

      "Okay folks, we're pushing the launch to next week!"

      (I kid, I kid, the site looks great).

      6 points
  • Renato de LeãoRenato de Leão, 2 years ago

    Waiting to try this since last year, let's see how it goes.

    Out of curiosity, why did you change your domain from: abstractapp.com to goabstract.com?


    One note on the site, besides the awesome party parrot: width: 100vw != width: 100%, vw includes scrollbarWidth. I don't know if it's just me, but these unwanted scrollbars just grind my gears.

    As a general rule, don't use for vw for full width sections. Use width: 100% instead.

    If you want to be hipster:

    .page-wrapper{ width: calc(100vw - (100vw - 100%))}

    That's it for today, CSS Is fun!

    Shamelessly Stolen and remixed from aykevl

    8 points
    • Josh BrewerJosh Brewer, 2 years ago

      Hey Renato, re: domain change, it was because all our social handles have been @goabstract from the start and we wanted to be more consistent across the board :)

      2 points
      • Renato de LeãoRenato de Leão, 2 years ago

        Makes sense! For moments I though it had something to do with the Abstract documentary, but then realised that it didn't make any sense... I just need to sleep :p

        0 points
    • Tim Van DammeTim Van Damme, 2 years ago

      Thanks for the heads up about the width thing, will make the change right now :)

      1 point
    • Maciej ZadykowiczMaciej Zadykowicz, 2 years ago

      You can get rid of the scrollbar with overflow-x: hidden in html tag when using 100vw's. Oh, and love the design!

      1 point
      • Renato de LeãoRenato de Leão, 2 years ago

        Well yup you can.. but you still get extra ~15px (depending on browser scrollbarWidth) on each section and then you can get things under the scrollbar.

        I think good ol % still wins, viewport units are handy for other things.

        1 point
      • Laura McCartney, 2 years ago

        That is a hack and can make your scrolling janky on mobile.

        1 point
  • P.J. Onori, 2 years ago

    I logged in specifically to provide a counter experience to the folks saying that they're noticing crashes. Our team has been using Abstract for the past month and have been very impressed with the stability and overall quality of the app during its alpha phase. I'm not trying to discredit those who say they're running into problems, but given the level of polish and reliability of the app we've seen, I'm confident this is a small hiccup that will be addressed by the team.

    This app has already had a marked impact on how we work. It's legit - give it a go.

    4 points
  • Ray SensebachRay Sensebach, 2 years ago

    Been on the Beta and this is an amazing product! The design industry has needed this for years.

    I do have to say that the team pricing is a little prohibitive though. $21/designer is going to hurt for sure.

    EDIT: spelling

    4 points
    • Andrew Michael ToddAndrew Michael Todd, 2 years ago

      If it solves the problem it's setting out to solve, it's well worth $21/designer.

      0 points
      • Ray SensebachRay Sensebach, 2 years ago

        $21/designer/month. More than double the cost of GitHub which has been perfecting their process for devs for many years.. Seems high IMO :/

        0 points
        • Ivan BozicIvan Bozic, 2 years ago

          It is high, but I think it's worth it. We've been a part of the private Alpha and it has the potential to really improve a lot of the design process. It already solved a lot of problems we've encountered in sharing design files and gathering feedback between designers, and it's basically v1.0 right now. Can't wait to see what they come up with to improve the product.

          Also, you usually have a lot less designers on a team when compared to developers. And I like the fact that you pay just for the actual designers who collaborate on the files, and the viewers are unlimited.

          0 points
  • Ali Zendaki, 2 years ago

    Is there a best practices guide/documentation for organizing sketch layers, naming , etc?

    3 points
  • David Steelcart, 2 years ago

    Did you realize, that you're the champion?

    2 points
  • Jim SilvermanJim Silverman, 2 years ago

    This is good, but I worry that suffers the same pitfalls of its forbears in that it alters the designer's workflow substantially (open files from app, no autosaving, branching/commits, etc.) After the high-profile demises of LayerVault and Pixelapse, I'm a bit hesitant to get a team on this.

    edit: kicked the tires a bit. it's immediately awesome.

    2 points
    • Andrew HoltAndrew Holt, 2 years ago

      It requires a change in your workflow, but I would argue the current workflow is broken. It's akin to a development workflow sans version control, which is a mess.

      1 point
  • Cory MalnarickCory Malnarick, 2 years ago

    Any way to make this work entirely locally, and sever it from your servers?

    2 points
    • Josh BrewerJosh Brewer, 2 years ago

      Hey Cory, afraid not! The Abstract experience is only possible because we control the entire experience end-to-end.

      0 points
    • Eduardo OsorioEduardo Osorio, 2 years ago

      I'm also waiting for a git design solution that runs locally. Saving documents in an unmanaged cloud it's a no go for a lot of big companies afaik.

      1 point
  • Joe Roberto, 2 years ago

    FINALLY!!!!!!

    2 points
  • Lee AraújoLee Araújo, 2 years ago

    As alpha user during last month all works fine. This is a game changer in the way team designers works.

    1 point
  • Nitin GargNitin Garg, 2 years ago

    Was looking forward to trying it out. Unfortunately, sketch keeps crashing repeatedly as soon I installed/logged in Mac app.

    1 point
    • Josh BrewerJosh Brewer, 2 years ago

      Hey Nitin, so sorry about that. We discovered that there is an issue with El Capitan and the plugin. Working on a fix right now!

      0 points
  • Andrew HoltAndrew Holt, 2 years ago

    Congrats Josh and team! So stoked on this.

    1 point
  • Daniel De LaneyDaniel De Laney, 2 years ago

    Sketch crashed while Abstract was setting up. Now Sketch crashes every time I try to open it. This is not my idea of a good first impression.

    Edit: I deleted the plugin via Finder and now Sketch will run.

    0 points
    • Josh BrewerJosh Brewer, 2 years ago

      Hey Daniel, so sorry about that. We discovered that there is an issue with El Capitan and the plugin. Working on a fix right now!

      0 points
  • Bruno MarinhoBruno Marinho, 2 years ago

    Sketch don't stop crashing after installing the desktop app. That's pretty serious since it might disrupt people's work.

    0 points
  • Artiom DashinskyArtiom Dashinsky, 2 years ago

    Looks exciting! The value proposition really reminds of LayerVault. Is there a difference (besides the fact that there is no LayerVault anymore, so it's not really an alternative)?

    0 points
    • Josh BrewerJosh Brewer, 2 years ago

      Thanks for the kind words! I'd say the main difference is that we built Abstract on top of git and embraced the git workflow in an effort to bring design and engineering closer together! We also have been able to achieve pretty good savings in file size/storage due to how we implemented things.

      0 points
  • Ali Zendaki, 2 years ago

    First try to import a sketch file and sketch crashed on me. Hopefully it's just a growing pain

    0 points
    • Josh BrewerJosh Brewer, 2 years ago

      We discovered that there is an issue with El Capitan and the plugin. Working on a fix right now!

      0 points
      • Ali Zendaki, 2 years ago

        Awesome, that's definitely what I am using (can't upgrade cause of corporate ecosystem)!

        0 points
  • Abdulrahman JarallahAbdulrahman Jarallah, 2 years ago

    I've been using Abstract private beta for the last 3 weeks. Best thing happened to me this year! Before Abstract I used to use git-lfs. Now Abstract changed everything for me. I can access my work from anywhere, it improved my flow a lot. Support is very friendly and responsive to feedback and bug reports.

    Keep doing the good work!

    0 points
  • Dean BagnallDean Bagnall, 2 years ago

    Been using this for the last 3 months. A big part of our workflow now. Awesome tool

    0 points
  • Diego LafuenteDiego Lafuente, 2 years ago

    LayerVault again…

    0 points
  • Jernej Horvat, 2 years ago

    Is there a plan to introduce it for Adobe tools?

    0 points
    • Curtis EstridgeCurtis Estridge, 2 years ago

      "Abstract works only with Sketch files at this time but very soon we will be supporting other file types." So Im assuming yes probably

      0 points
    • Josh BrewerJosh Brewer, 2 years ago

      Yes! We plan to add support for Adobe tools. Which tools would be highest priority for you?

      0 points
      • Jernej Horvat, 2 years ago

        XD and Illustrator. XD is probably the most important one since it's getting a lot of traction.

        0 points
  • Steven CavinsSteven Cavins, 2 years ago

    So excited to dig into this. I'm a sole designer, but I'm hoping this could help me keep my stuff archived better (vs. zipping up old versions & iterations, time stamping, etc.)

    EDIT: Reading comments. I'm scared now.

    0 points
    • Tim Van DammeTim Van Damme, 2 years ago

      Should be all good now! Give it a try an let us know what you think!

      1 point
    • Josh BrewerJosh Brewer, 2 years ago

      Hey Steven, if you are on Sierra you should be fine. so sorry about that. We discovered that there is an issue with El Capitan and the plugin. Working on a fix right now!

      1 point
  • Jason Kanzler, 2 years ago

    not only did abstract crash my sketch but my entire computer shut off the second i hit "edit branch". like immediately.

    0 points