19 comments

  • Norm Sheeran, 4 years ago

    For me, it all boils down to the OS, if Microsoft seriously want designers/developers to switch from Apple, they need to focus on making their OS the best.

    Apart from slightly more modern hardware with touch screens, I don't see any reason to switch. MacOS is not perfect, but it's a lot better than Windows.

    Someone give me 5 good reasons to switch to Windows, apart from touch screen PC's.

    8 points
    • Akash Ramani, 4 years ago

      Interesting, are you saying the OS matters more to you than the products/apps that are supported on the OS? :)

      6 points
      • Norm Sheeran, 4 years ago

        Yeah, you will always find alternatives and there is a lot of choice now aside from the multi platform Adobe apps. The OS is the heart of the workflow IMO, somthing a lot of us take for granted and is rarely mentioned in this debate.

        3 points
      • Mattan IngramMattan Ingram, 4 years ago

        In many ways yes. I far prefer macOS implementation of things like Spaces, Mission Control, Spotlight, etc.

        That's before you even get into software only available for macOS like Alfred or BetterTouchTool.

        4 points
    • Stuart McCoyStuart McCoy, 4 years ago

      I loathe opening Parallels and working in Windows but I would like to have a PC for doing video work (After Effects, Premiere Pro) because their hardware for rendering is better than the Mac Pro. Apple should be addressing this with the next version of the Mac Pro in 2018 but until then there's a strong argument for using a PC.

      If you're a web developer or graphic designer though, stick with a Mac MacOS.

      4 points
      • Norm Sheeran, 4 years ago

        Yeah Apple won't sit back, I think the Mac line up will get a big boost in the next 2 years because of recent Microsoft PC's.

        1 point
    • Josiah TullisJosiah Tullis, 4 years ago

      Windows has actually gotten a lot better in the last several years. You might be pleasantly surprised.

      5 points
    • James Young, 4 years ago

      The OS between the two companies really isn't that different - what is it that's so superior on Mac that Windows is missing?

      I've used both over the years going from Windows -> Mac -> Windows and I can't honestly say at point have I felt that Mac was better in any way and neither is tying in to other Mac devices as I honestly hated the iPhone compared to Android (so I do have a non-mac bias probably) but really what is it that you think makes Mac so superior?

      2 points
    • Joseph Feliciano, 4 years ago

      She barely mentioned her build or the reasons why she needs Windows or hardware/software combinations that aren't available on Mac but are on Windows.

      My reasons for switching :

      • Adobe suite works just as well.
      • WAMP works fine for what I need it do.
      • Anything VR related work or entertainment (Vive, Oculus, HoloLens).
      • Anything 3D related that requires a powerful GPU (GTX 1080, Titan, Architecture GPUs) for rendering, ray tracing, etc.
      • Anything gaming related work or entertainment.
      • HTPC media server + UWP big screen friendly apps.
      • In-home game streaming to any PC or non windows touch device.
      • Drawing/sketching on screen (No 3rd party device needed).

      Yes Mac OS is the more aesthetically pleasing OS, and yes you get fancy work flows, but I can live with a few differences for all the other gains.

      5 points
    • John PJohn P, 4 years ago

      Someone give me 5 good reasons to switch to Windows, apart from touch screen PC's.

      Modern GPUs and modern hardware. A company that actually cares about real computers.

      4 points
      • Norm Sheeran, 4 years ago

        Yes but that's today, by the end of the year that may not be the case. But let's be honest Apple will never lead in processor spec.

        Personally I find, for the work I do (video editing, interface design, app development and photo editing), Macs run just fine. I appreciate you need something more substantial if you are working in the VR, 3D space. But then, I think most who are working on this type of stuff never used Macs anyway.

        A lot of this move to windows started because Microsoft released a huge touch screen PC which, incidentally is a real stunner to look at, but it's spec ain't much to shout about.

        0 points
        • James Young, 4 years ago

          Are you saying that switching to Windows isn't a goodidea because they currently care about modern hardware, design and pro users more than Apple but might not in the future?

          2 points
          • Norm Sheeran, 4 years ago

            I'm not saying switching to windows is a bad idea, I'm just stating, I don't see why I need to switch. I have faith in Apple, and know they won't sit back and let this slide.

            0 points
        • John PJohn P, 4 years ago

          But then, I think most who are working on this type of stuff never used Macs anyway.

          3D had actually gained a lot of traction on the Mac side recently. Obviously not like hollywood CGI but I could rattle off 10 studios producing excellent and creative 3D work on what used to be considered Macs pro line. This was more of a case that 2D designers had learnt the skill so were already on Macs.

          Now they've all shifted to PCs.

          Obviously if you're just a UI designer then you don't need power but multidisciplinary designers are starting to find Macs anaemic power celling stifling

          0 points
    • Jrtorrents Dorman , 4 years ago
      1. Native Pen support
      2. Window Management
      3. ability to build custom PC with top of the line specs (legally)
      4. If you work with AE or C4d you'll notice that windows does a better job at running the application graphics intensive apps than OSX
      5. Generally cheaper ?
      2 points
    • Tait BrownTait Brown, 4 years ago

      Hardware may seem like an easily dismissed concern, but our office has noticed a real downward trend in quality. My last two MBPs have had logic board failures. My current gen MBP, after 24 hours of use, has had it's display shit itself. I can't use my wireless mouse and my wireless headphones at the same time. This is a $4,000 AUD laptop. Don't even get me started on #donglegate.

      At the moment the only thing keeping me here is Sketch.app and Window's horrible font rendering.

      2 points
  • Josiah TullisJosiah Tullis, 4 years ago

    I have also started making this transition. Windows is full of nice surprises and supports a lot of handy software that isn't on Mac, but not having Sketch is pretty rough.

    4 points
  • James Young, 4 years ago

    Adobe XD on Windows is a dire car-crash of non-features. I was surprised to see it even got released with so few features compared to all the lovely videos of the Mac version.

    Sketch was a big miss for me swapping back to Windows but Affinity Designer has really filled that gap for the design stuff I do. It's probably not quite where Sketch is right now but it's a good option and certainly better than XD.

    1 point
  • Joe ShoopJoe Shoop, 4 years ago

    Adobe XD still has a ton of catching up to do to truly be an alternative to Sketch. Figma is probably a closer bet, and its getting there faster, but neither one is quite there yet. XD has no layer styles or text styles, there are no symbol overrides, you can't resize symbols, etc, etc. Figma is better about this, but there are no text styles, and symbols don't feel quite right yet.

    I assume this will all change over time, and I am excited about the cross platform capability of Figma and XD. But for now, Sketch is unmatched as the best app for UI design, and you'd be doing yourself a disservice to use windows as a professional UI/UX designer today, simply because you couldn't use Sketch.

    0 points