10 comments

  • Marko Masnjak, almost 5 years ago

    Apple is moving towards wireless everything, so they're not really concerned with cords. Personally, I haven't plugged my iPhone or iPad into my computer is over 3 years. I also haven't used the headphone port is about 2 years.

    Remember the drama about not having a Blu-Ray drive? Most people don't.

    4 points
  • Ethan BondEthan Bond, almost 5 years ago

    Yeah, and what's up with that USB-A thing that they're pushing out?! I need FireWire, a few serial and parallel ports, an optical port, and a toaster oven connection.

    They did think some things through. They have the weight necessary to push entire markets around, so they're doing it, just like they did with USB. It will never be easy to switch or eradicate standards, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. The only entity that can afford to force it is Apple.

    3 points
    • Morten RiisMorten Riis, almost 5 years ago (edited almost 5 years ago )

      Well, it is not only about updating to new standards... that is just fine and expected. The problem raised here is their inconsistent use of the standards.

      When they release two new products and one has a headphone jack and the other uses Lightning, one uses USB-C the other Lightning, it is bound to be a chaotic dongle jungle.

      #DongleJungle

      0 points
      • Ethan BondEthan Bond, almost 5 years ago (edited almost 5 years ago )

        Sure, if you rely on the assumption that an iPhone user is guaranteed to be a MacBook user, and even more specifically that an upgrading iPhone user is likely to upgrade their MacBook simultaneously.

        iPhones outsell MacBooks 10 to 1. Relative to the market size, people who run into this issue are few and far between. Had the iPhone been shipped with a USB-C to Lightning cable, the vast majority of users wouldn't be able to charge their phones without a dongle. Had the MacBook shipped with UBS-A, they wouldn't be making a strong push towards C.

        This means not only is your incompatibility scenario rare, but it also only applies to people who are already spending thousands of dollars on luxury tech equipment. Spend the $30 for a USB-C to Lightning cable to connect your $2000 laptop to your $700 phone.

        0 points
        • Brian A.Brian A., almost 5 years ago (edited almost 5 years ago )

          Spend the $30 for a USB-C to Lightning cable to connect your $2000 laptop to your $700 phone.

          No thanks. It's not about the cost or switch to new standards; my specific issue with that adapter is that it should be included. Apple knows full well that this transition period will cause some friction; holding basic connectivity—no matter how rare the need might be—hostage over $30 dongles is a slap in the face.

          0 points
          • Ethan BondEthan Bond, almost 5 years ago (edited almost 5 years ago )

            Okay, then don't. The very few people who will protest this by not purchasing these items aren't going to be impacting Apple's bottom line relative to the tens of millions who won't care, so it's still clearly not true that they "didn't think some things through."

            It's simple cost benefit analysis to anyone who doesn't take the existence/necessity/recommendation of dongles as a personal affront.

            0 points
    • John PJohn P, almost 5 years ago

      Yeah, and what's up with that USB-A thing that they're pushing out?! I need FireWire, a few serial and parallel ports, an optical port, and a toaster oven connection.

      So tired of this strawman to justify shipping products literally weeks apart that cannot be plugged into each other out of the box.

      0 points
  • Joe Blau, almost 5 years ago

    First thing my wife said at the Apple Store on Sunday when checking out the MacBook Pro Escape™ was "How can I charge my phone?" I laughed.

    1 point
  • Ale UrrutiaAle Urrutia, almost 5 years ago

    First thing I thought after the new MacBook Pro launch event was: another adapter to iPhone 7+airpod owners...

    It looks exactly like that, Apple didn't think how the ecosystem of products will be incompatible or about how the user will experience these problems.

    I can't believe this was a mistake but probably a planning/manufacturing/supply mismatch between different departments and vendors. Next iPhone and airpods will come with USB-c ports to align with the new macs.

    0 points