18 comments

  • Ale UrrutiaAle Urrutia, over 3 years ago

    Really good idea. I completed the mini survey.

    Some thoughts about design feedback:

    If you are critiquing: Be brutally honest as politeness leads to potential problems, misunderstandings and delays.

    If you are being reviewed: Don't take it personal but professional, be open to the critique and listen, but also be confident to defend your idea if necessary.

    6 points
    • Arix KingArix King, over 3 years ago

      Thanks for filling out the form, Ale!

      We definitely agree with your comments on critique. There's too much sugar-coating on most design "show-and-tell" websites, so we want to make a community focused on being serious about improvement. That said, we do believe there is a line between criticism and cruelty, but it's easy to tell which is which!

      2 points
    • Bryce Howitson, over 3 years ago

      Good points Ale, Would you be interested in writing an article about that? We've been trying to collect articles around best practices for critique. They give us a jumping off point for a platform but it's a great thought leadership exercise for authors too.

      1 point
  • Bryce HowitsonBryce Howitson, over 3 years ago

    Hey Friends, I've noticed that good critique is really hard to come by. I'd like to change that but first I need to understand it. Would you help me understand how critique fits into your workflow?

    2 points
  • Chip FreeneyChip Freeney, over 3 years ago

    I love that y'all are doing this. I've actually thought about the 'critique as a service' idea also - could be really valuable, especially to designers without a team.

    (Now for some critique) I think you are missing out on data the way your survey is worded. As a survey taker, I was hoping for an opportunity to explain my team's process and why I love it. I would recommend adding an open text box with 'describe your critique process'.

    Cheers

    2 points
    • Bryce Howitson, over 3 years ago

      Hey Chip, Love the thought. The goal was as little typing as possible for speed of answering but you're right we're missing out on a lot without a long form entry. I'll see what I can do.

      1 point
      • Chip FreeneyChip Freeney, over 3 years ago

        Glad to help! (wife is a UX researcher - we're all about the open-ended questions haha)

        A note on our critique process - the obvious value add is for the designer being critiqued. The undervalued (sometimes overlooked) aspect is the learning that critiquers get from listening to each other's comments. I learned so much in my early career by sitting in critique sessions and listening to the comments that seniors and leads were making. Helped train my eye, and gave me new perspectives.

        If you're building a platform, I would definitely consider how to promote this kind of value for the participants.

        Best of luck

        1 point
        • Bryce Howitson, over 3 years ago

          That's a very good point that some learning occurs by simply observing a strong critique. Based on the survey data thus far, it seems we'd need to find a way to balance that with confidentiality. I'm sure there's a solution but it will take some thought. I really appreciate you pointing out that additional benefit though. Thank You!

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  • Arix KingArix King, over 3 years ago

    Hey DNers! I'm working with Bryce on this project! Thanks for taking the time to do this for us—we REALLY appreciate it! :)

    1 point
  • Trev MorrisTrev Morris, over 3 years ago

    Bosh.

    I also forgot to mention in my response (essay) to thank those who give you feedback, even the harsh ones and to also show how their feedback has helped you. If this can become part of the business' culture, making it a regular thing, the quality of work produced will most certainly improve.

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  • Brandon CrooksBrandon Crooks, over 3 years ago

    This is really great! I finished the survey and will be looking forward to seeing what comes of this!

    I just missed the window when Dribbble was a community that shared WIP's and provided well articulated Feedback. To be frank, It's starting to feel like an invite-only version of Behance. I'm even starting to see the mindless self-promotion "This is great, take a look at my work…" issue that has taken over the Behance platform.

    0 points
    • Bryce Howitson, over 3 years ago

      I completely agree on the state of Dribbble and Behance. They have their place but giving decent critique doesn't seem to be it...

      1 point
  • Jonas Bucinskas, over 3 years ago

    It really depends on the tools that you use to provide critique because literally any feedback is valuable, but it doesn't mean a thing if you can't understand it and then act on it.

    It's alright when you get feedback from other designers that are on the same level as you, but usually that feedback is from clients/project managers that speak totally different language.

    I'd recommend you to check out TrackDuck visual feedback tool(disclosure i work at TrackDuck). The tool lets to leave visual feedback on design files or websites, that is then turned into actionable tasks.

    We use it ourselves when creating new pages or designs so it's easier for our designers to understand what is exactly wrong, good about the design.

    0 points
    • Bryce HowitsonBryce Howitson, over 3 years ago

      Thanks Jonas, we'll take a look! Obviously, this is really early but I don't imagine we're planning to build everything. Some partnerships would be nice.

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  • Stuart McCoyStuart McCoy, over 3 years ago

    I think this sort of questionnaire needs to be directed more towards clients then designers. Goo designer should know how to give/receiver proper critiques. Clients on the other hand tend to give art direction, not critique, and I'd be far more interested to know how people get around this problem.

    0 points