ASK DN: Is it just me or?

4 years ago from

No matter how, why or for what good reason they got made in the first place, most of the communities built around certain professions (especially in the IT) end up being closed clubs of (often ingeniously cynical and/or sarcastic) know-it-alls and haters, and everyone else around picking the crumbles and selling their souls to join the "cool gang"

Because witnessing the events, dramas and constant hating and dissing online during these 3-4 years I've been around, most of the days I'd rather shut down and delete everything and go be a street sweeper.

So much negativity guys, and from people who are supposed to be creative, think outside of the box and be different or whatnot. Ffs. Why?

13 comments

  • Strahinja Todorovic, 4 years ago

    The thing that baffles me the most is how online sarcasm and cynicism have suddenly become measures of someone's intelligence (wtf)

    6 points
  • Richard HerriesRichard Herries, 4 years ago

    Maybe its cause there are not enough hugs in the internetz. When was the last time you hugged your garbage man? http://scrubs.wikia.com/wiki/My_Big_Bird

    5 points
  • Robert BusbyRobert Busby, 4 years ago (edited 4 years ago )

    There is negativity no matter where you go, in any profession. You just need to ignore it.

    I'd much rather my current job than working in a generic job where people bitch about all their co-workers during their lunch breaks because they hate their jobs. - [I know you said community but the same idea applies, I think]

    5 points
  • Connor Tomas O'BrienConnor Tomas O'Brien, 4 years ago

    In general, the issue isn't the people, but the underlying community infrastructure. People tend to join communities for selfish reasons (though they may not be willing to admit this to themselves), and unless there's a strong incentive for members to cooperate, they'll usually try to do whatever they can to maximise the benefits they receive from the group while minimising the energy they need to expend to receive that benefit. Depending on how the community has been established, this does often manifest itself in cliquishness or sycophancy.

    The question is how to create communities in which cooperation is truly valued. It's a hard problem to solve, and sometimes people think they've solved the problem, only to find their community norms slide off in the wrong direction.

    If you're really interested in the "Why?" of it all, I'd highly recommend checking out "The Economies of Online Cooperation" (available in full at http://www.connectedaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/2001-peter-kollock-economies-of-online-cooperation.htm )

    3 points
  • Drew RiosDrew Rios, 4 years ago

    Gotta keep positive and set an example :) People will reciprocate

    3 points
  • Gabriele CirulliGabriele Cirulli, 4 years ago

    I think negativity stems out of jealousy in some cases. It's bad nevertheless.

    3 points
  • Benjamin GageBenjamin Gage, 4 years ago

    It's pretty unfortunate at times but it's best to ignore and rise above it.

    I always find myself going back to that special point in my life where I realized that this is what I want to do. That reaffirms that yes I want to be here and no, I'm not going to let other people's shitty attitudes ever get to me like that - where I feel compelled to change profession.

    3 points
  • Charlie PrattCharlie Pratt, 4 years ago

    I think connoisseurs, for the most part, become snobs. It's part of the game. I think it's inevitable in large measure. I think there should be a followup to this post asking why so many designers are such namby-pamby nancy boys who always need affirmation. PS, I'm a designer.

    2 points
  • Marvin KennisMarvin Kennis, 4 years ago

    Competition might be big factor here. Back in the day when there was no internet or when the 'internet-professions' were relatively small, you didn't have a lot of people to compete with or compare yourself to. Now with internet communities that tide has turned; you have lots of people to compare yourself with and a ton of people who are better than you.

    Insecure people feel the need to bring others down, just so they can feel better about themselves. Jealousy is a part of this. Which is why I doubt any of this hate/negativity comes from actual good designers doing meaningful work that they love doing. It sucks that this negativity exists, but I guess you just have to ignore it as there doesn't seem to be a way around.

    2 points
  • Thom StoodleyThom Stoodley, 4 years ago

    Recently I left a comment on a popular (by likes) Instagram account because I pointed out that some of his image was clearly retouched badly and wasn't to the same standard I followed him for. It wasn't harsh, more constructive criticism but instead of replying the guy deleted my comment and further blocked me because it may have cost him less likes / follows / whatever..

    The problem is everyone feels they HAVE to have a say in something or judge they're the expert by the number of followers they have, be it at work, reading a lifestyle blog, inside a community forum, twitter etc. The opportunity to get voted up / liked / retweeted add's to peoples perceptions of their internet (dare I say) progress and affects how their online personality can change. Sounds really wanky but that's just how it is.

    I'm no expert in behaviour but personally I just follow basic netiquette, don't reply to everything, be myself, ignore a majority of things and just get on like I'm sure many of you do as well.

    At the end of the day, it doesn't matter and this is why I don't understand (at least in the UK) how kids these days get cyber bullied and how it can lead to suicide etc.

    1 point