24 comments

  • Thompson GeorgeThompson George, 3 years ago

    If you don't want your photos stolen don't put them on the internet.

    18 points
    • JC .JC ., 3 years ago

      I feel its less about people taking photos from the internet but that Apple does not encourage a better way forward on this matter. As designers with the ability to influence on users' behaviors, Apple could've put in a photo credit & url link when the user is doing the drag-and-drop interaction

      2 points
      • Connor Tomas O'BrienConnor Tomas O'Brien, 3 years ago

        This is absolutely the way to do it. If the images are coming from websites, the URL link should be pulled too – it'd be trivial for users to delete out the URL if they wanted to, but in many cases it would actually be useful in terms of giving context to the image.

        1 point
      • Thompson GeorgeThompson George, 3 years ago

        Done is better than perfect. It's not Apple's job to protect the rights of every photographer.

        0 points
      • Thompson GeorgeThompson George, 3 years ago

        Also they are not 'taking' anyones photos. They are simply duplicating them.

        0 points
    • Bryce DriesengaBryce Driesenga, 3 years ago

      Similarly, if you don't want your bike stolen, never leave home with it.

      9 points
    • Ian GoodeIan Goode, 3 years ago

      Why do people always trot out this line? There's no logic to it.

      3 points
  • Ignacio Palomo DuarteIgnacio Palomo Duarte, 3 years ago

    Well, I don't want to play devil's advocate, but in the example it's just an email between (I asume) friends in a private conversation:

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    There are lots of different scenarios (and copyright law changes from country to country very wildly), but I guess that most of the use cases are going to be private — professionals already know what they can and cannot use.

    12 points
    • Tareq Ismail, 3 years ago

      Unfortunately, in the keynote, they show the use of Keynote rather than a personal email. So Apple is in fact encouraging its use everywhere. See here: https://youtu.be/JdDWXUnpJvI?t=45m28s

      1 point
      • Cecil Lancaster, 3 years ago (edited 3 years ago )

        True but it's a slideshow/presentation about a personal trip. Not a work document.

        9 points
    • Tareq Ismail, 3 years ago

      Also, not sure how true it is about professionals being disciplined about photo copyright laws. In my previous companies, I had to fight and really champion the idea of buying stock photos (especially for presentations).

      After I convinced everyone, they were all on board but before they would just steal photos from Google Images. My fear is that with this feature that is going to become so much more common.

      1 point
      • Thompson GeorgeThompson George, 3 years ago

        Sounds like a waste of $ for a powerpoint.

        13 points
        • Bryce DriesengaBryce Driesenga, 3 years ago

          Depends on how they're being used. Internally? Not a big deal, I'd say. For presenting to clients or other companies? You should definitely be paying for those or sourcing creative commons images.

          3 points
  • Shea LewisShea Lewis, 3 years ago

    You guys act like this was never a thing before. People will always rip images. No way around it... I see my photos used all over from my Instagram ( knifeandfox) with out my permission. If its a big deal to you, you just ask them to remove it, and most do pretty quickly. I quickly realized the photography world was over saturated with photographer. So I became a UI designer haha. Now I use Unsplash mostly, and rip photos all the time for mockup stuff all the time.

    8 points
  • Robin RaszkaRobin Raszka, 3 years ago

    No

    7 points
  • Sam Bible, 3 years ago

    I'm all for protecting intellectual property rights. But here's the thing, it's misleading and a cheap shot to single out Apple/Siri.

    For one (as the article points out), this has been around for a long time. I can literally do a Google search and drag and drop images straight from Chrome into Sketch. And it's trivial to do it at any resolution I want. Then there's Invision's Craft plugin which has an entire feature built around enabling a streamlined, bulk version of this workflow. Also without attribution.

    Which brings me to my second point: People are going to misuse images out of ignorance, laziness or because they just don't care. Saying corporate America made it convenient and taking the focus off the people using the images is pretty much sidestepping the issue. It makes as much sense as blaming drunk driving on auto manufacturers... or brewery's for that matter. Responsibility lies firstly with the person using the images to care about the creator's conditions. And secondly with us as a community to uphold a standard of respecting other people's IP. (Which is what's so cool about how the OP acted at his own company.)

    6 points
  • Jeewan RajamaniJeewan Rajamani, 3 years ago

    I am really appalled at the lack of research by the author before posting something on a public domain. Why would an article be built on assumption? Did you write to Apple? Did you write to Bing? The feature shown was a demo and we have no concrete proof that this is an unethical practice. Bing has an easy way to filter out images that are free to use. You should refer to http://help.bing.microsoft.com/#apex/18/en-us/10006/0

    3 points
  • Ben BarryBen Barry, 3 years ago

    It's not just photography, this is also a big issue for illustration. I agree that it's troubling for the interface to normalize this behavior.

    3 points
  • Uli SchöberlUli Schöberl, 3 years ago

    The idea of a blockchain based attribution system could be a way out of this endless problem: http://www.mediachain.io, I think there should be more discussion about practical solutions.

    1 point
  • anthony thomasanthony thomas, 3 years ago (edited 3 years ago )

    Author of this article is such a phony. He claims to be a moral guy doing the good of internet justice by fighting for copyrights, but then steals images from Apple, while blaming Apple for promoting copyright infringement. How ironic is that?

    This fake moral guy breaks Apple's copyright policy here: http://www.apple.com/legal/intellectual-property/guidelinesfor3rdparties.html

    b. The image is an actual photograph of the genuine Apple product and not an artist’s rendering (Note: You must obtain express written permission from Apple before using any photograph owned or licensed by Apple).

    c. The Apple product is shown only in the best light, in a manner or context that reflects favorably on the Apple products and on Apple Inc.

    I don't see why he cares so much about this issue. Is he a photographer who has had his images stolen before? What's his personal experience with this issue? Seems to me the author is a phony hypocrite pretending to be a moral hero.

    1 point
  • Tareq Ismail, 3 years ago

    I've written a reply to my previous post addressing some great feedback found here: https://medium.com/@tareqismail/follow-up-thoughts-on-siris-image-search-feature-67c6fc58217d#.jpxqwnho9

    Thanks everyone.

    1 point