• Jeff ShinJeff Shin, almost 8 years ago (edited almost 8 years ago )

    Could @fanelli have been nicer with his words? Yes.

    Do you have a right to be a little pissed off by his words? Yep.

    But is this age discrimination? No.

    All he meant to say (I think) was that you don't have enough experience in the industry to be able to make big statements about the direction of the industry. Don't forget that in the article, you accused a significantly large group of professionals of being 'lazy'.

    17 points
    • Devin HalladayDevin Halladay, over 7 years ago

      I definitely should have expanded my thoughts a bit more. By designers, I generally meant web designers. By web designers, I generally mean experienced web designers that already know how to code or that want to actually learn how to code.

      2 points
  • Zander BradeZander Brade, almost 8 years ago

    The fact you posted this about yourself might just be the cringiest thing I've seen on DN. SMH at your immaturity and misunderstanding of the industry.

    13 points
  • Jake Lazaroff, almost 8 years ago

    We used to input data on punched cards, until we came up with interactive terminals. We used to handwrite assembly languages, until we came up with C. If you think you're going to be manually writing HTML and CSS forever, just because historically it's always been "the best way", I have a bridge to sell you.

    11 points
  • Jim SilvermanJim Silverman, almost 8 years ago

    when you write a blog post that trolls this hard, expect some flame.

    8 points
  • Joe TurnerJoe Turner, almost 8 years ago

    Grow up.

    2 points
  • Kyle A Kyle A , almost 8 years ago

    I remember being a young designer. I began at a very young age and at some point you feel powerful because you can create what others can't. It's not arrogance, but when you are young you tend to live in your small bubble of friends. If you can do something that constantly wows them, you feel awesome. Then at some point you realize that you are never done growing and that you should never consider yourself "the best".

    I, for one, support young designers. We constantly say that design+code= Amazing unicorn glowing in the sky, so why would a young person who looks up to the professionals in this industry not assume that he has reached amazing unicorn if he can both code and design? Is it not our (design and dev community as a whole) fault? Should we not support him? If he has such passion now, imagine where he will go in life with the right attitude. Once he gets out in the real world he will understand, but for now, what's wrong with being confident in yourself?

    2 points
  • Miles O'KeefeMiles O'Keefe, almost 8 years ago

    I read the article before I knew the author was 16 and took it pretty seriously.

    Despite OP's lack of experience/portfolio he has a reasonably good point that could have easily been said by an experienced designer.

    Seems like this is all a big ad hominem.

    1 point
  • Shawn BorskyShawn Borsky, almost 8 years ago

    What is any industry without internal drama? Heh.

    1 point
  • Cole TownsendCole Townsend, almost 8 years ago

    Here's my take:

    Devin isn't saying he's awesome because he's a unicorn. Although, unicorns (the mythical creature) are generally regarded as awesome. He's saying that designers who also work with code are rare. He is a designer that also works with code. Therefore he is a unicorn designer, and pretty rare.

    Just because something is rare it is not necessarily awesome, especially the cause of rarity is not demand. It's a low supply situation.

    Some of you might disagree with the level of competency required to be a unicorn designer. Whatever. This was contextual. Maybe Devin is wrong, and he isn't quite a unicorn designer. Still irrelevant.

    Coming at younger designers in the industry does not make you look good. It reflects poorly on the design community. Keep it out of the public arena.

    1 point
    • Devin Halladay, almost 8 years ago

      Great thoughts on this Cole! I did NOT mean to sound arrogant when I said that I am a unicorn designer — I was merely stating a fact to sustain my point. To be fair, I also wrote the article up in 15 minutes and didn't read it before I published it :P

      0 points
      • Justin EdmundJustin Edmund, almost 8 years ago

        You take pride in the fact that you wrote this article in 15 minutes and didn't proof-read it before publishing?

        You are young.

        0 points
  • Devin Halladay, almost 8 years ago

    Jay has emailed me and we cleared up any confusion that existed in this argument. I've apologized and further explained my points.

    Now let's all shut up and go make something.

    0 points
  • Derrick SchippertDerrick Schippert, almost 8 years ago


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