56 comments

  • KQ DregerKQ Dreger, 5 years ago

    Dribble shots are not news.

    Neither are the handful of portfolios that get posted here each week?

    If a Dribbble shot is relevant to the community discussion, vote it up. If not, ignore.

    85 points
    • Andy Chipperfield, 5 years ago

      You're right, maybe like recent discussions about Medium, it's more about quality content over a blanket ban.

      Is the DN algorithm working? Is there a better system of ensuring some level of quality?

      5 points
      • louie solomonlouie solomon, 5 years ago

        I'm not sure there's enough content posted here to really see the results of their algorithm working. From what I've seen, new posts end up on the first page of results.

        2 points
        • James LaneJames Lane, 5 years ago

          Louie, I'm curious, do you just use the 'top stories' link in the menu bar or do you check out the other tabs?

          Personally, I'm a fan of 'latest stories', then check 'top stories' every so often if I've missed it on 'latest'.

          Saying that, it's up to the user how they actually use DN, and everyone will be different, so I wonder what the perfect algorithm would be? Does one even exist? (Especially after all the fuss Instagram have created when suggesting they are changing their algorithm...)

          0 points
    • Ralph Theyer, 5 years ago

      I also frequently see news posts voted up then removed from the front page. So even the mods here are choosing to remove news but leave rambling Medium posts...

      Despite the name, this site really isn't friendly to design news.

      1 point
      • James LaneJames Lane, 5 years ago

        If a Medium post is put up, could it be because someone is actually trying to write something interesting but maybe don't have a blog or anything to write on?

        And what 'news' do you think has been removed? The only ones I can think of that keep getting removed recently are those 35+ FREE WORDPRESS... posts.

        0 points
        • Ralph Theyer, 5 years ago (edited 5 years ago )

          Hi James, let me say I'm OK with Medium posts if they have a point. In fact I encourage posts that share ideas because, as you said, not everyone has a personal website or a personal blog.

          And I agree that list posts should be removed. That's already in DN's content guidelines.

          What I mean is when a news post gets a few votes and gets to the front page, then gets removed from the front page but still remains in "recent stories". I see it with dev-related news(I think this happened when Normalize 4.0 was released) where a relevant webdev news piece gets voted up, then it's apparently deemed not newsworthy for designers and it gets removed from the front page. If I check the recent tab the story is still there, and it has the same vote count, but it simply won't appear in "top stories" anymore. I assume this is a manual action by a moderator.

          This might've also happened when I posted a "site design:" to the new WDD redesign too. But honestly it's hard to remember and there's no way to prove if a post was on the front page then mysteriously vanished.

          All I can say is that I've seen this happen more than once, and it happens to legitimate news posts not just listicles. And since DN has such a low volume of front page threads, specifically news pieces, why not just leave them alone? Spam is one thing, but is webdev news or offbeat design news really not relevant to a community of UI/product designers?

          Just my 2c

          0 points
          • James LaneJames Lane, 5 years ago

            I assume this is a manual action by a moderator.

            Yes, moderators can sink/unsink posts from appearing on the 'top stories' page, hence you might still see it on 'recent stories'.

            Personally as a designer/developer, I'm in agreement that we should see news from all different areas of design (knowing full well that a lot of designers dabble in a bit of development here and there).

            I'll share your thoughts with the rest of the mods.

            0 points
  • Daryl GinnDaryl Ginn, 5 years ago

    http://dribbble.com/daryl

    28 points
  • Ed AdamsEd Adams, 5 years ago

    Just to play devil's advocate, I am not in favour of banning Dribbble links.

    The "it's not news argument" is weak, there are an awful lot of submissions on the home page that aren't news. Pretty much every "Show DN" is just a person or company wanting to get feedback on their new product/site/portfolio/etc. "Ask DN" is also non-news content, and nobody's calling for that to be banned.

    Scroll through the DN homepage now and try to classify everything as either being news or non-news. A lot of the stuff submitted here is non-news.

    17 points
    • Andy ChipperfieldAndy Chipperfield, 5 years ago

      You're right. Maybe DN isn't wholly about news, but about relative products and discussion too.

      I'd just rather not see it become a dumping ground for self-promotion. But that's just my preference.

      1 point
  • Ian GoodeIan Goode, 5 years ago

    The irony of this post is just delicious.

    Anyway.

    DN is a news site.

    DN is whatever the community makes it to be. It's a place where anyone can post a link, upvote, comment, and then an algorithm decides what the 'top' content is. It's whatever the community makes it, given those tools.

    Dribbble shots are not news.

    Neither are posts complaining about Dribbble! Like this one, ironically. Or most self posts. Or AMAs. Or 99% of the content really. And the content that is news is some of the most boring content on here. Apple released a new phone? Big whoop. Sketch has some new features? Yeah, I use the app, I know.

    15 points
    • Andy ChipperfieldAndy Chipperfield, almost 5 years ago

      Irony is my middle name. That and Dave.

      And I'm not complaining about Dribbble (I'll leave that to opinionated writers on Medium), just that trying to get more views on your shot of a design on an angled iPhone probably (I'm guessing here) isn't the kind of content DN readers want to see.

      0 points
      • P GBP GB, almost 5 years ago

        your shot of a design on an angled iPhone

        Out of the first 40 shots currently listed on the 'popular' page, 2 of them featured some sort of phone at a slight angle.

        It's fine if you want to bash dribbble for whatever reason, but try and make your reason accurate or relevant to dribbble at the moment, rather than dribbble from 2 years ago.

        2 points
        • Andy ChipperfieldAndy Chipperfield, almost 5 years ago

          Thank you for allowing me to bash Dribbble, but as I mentioned previously in this comment thread, I'm really not bashing dribbble, that's another discussion entirely.

          The post on DN that lead me to start this conversation, which was posted today, was exactly as described.

          1 point
          • P GBP GB, almost 5 years ago

            The post that's now disappeared from the front page, due to the fact it wasn't popular?

            Your argument is doesn't exist. DN is designed to self-moderate content through voting, activity and clicks. Some sort of blanket ban on posting links from one site based on the flimsy idea that it's 'not news' is just stupid.

            0 points
            • Andy ChipperfieldAndy Chipperfield, almost 5 years ago (edited almost 5 years ago )

              It's been removed, presumably by the poster.

              As I mentioned in other threads (see above), and learned through this whole discussion, is it's more about quality content over a blanket ban. That (I think) is what we all want.

              0 points
  • Sam SolomonSam Solomon, 5 years ago

    I am not in favor of banning Dribbble links.

    Should most Dribbble links be posted on Designer News? Of course not. However, a large amount of designers are on the site and sometimes stories develop around those individual links.

    Should we discourage posting Dribbble links just for the views? Absolutely. If there isn't anything to discuss regarding that link we, as a community, should discourage that behavior.

    A better suggestion than outright banning Dribbble links would be to prompt posters with something that says "Is this a story-worthy post, or just your most recent shot?" Similar to how reposts are handled.

    On the other hand, I'm not sure what we do about all these "Top Wordpress Theme" posts that are being astroturfed to the front page. Maybe stronger moderation tools? Perhaps, after a post has been flagged 3 times, it is automatically removed?

    That's much more concerning to me than Dribbble links.

    10 points
  • Thompson GeorgeThompson George, 5 years ago

    OP doesn't have an invite.

    7 points
  • Taj Rahman, 5 years ago

    pls like and subscribe http://dribbble.com/tajdid

    5 points
  • Sol RaySol Ray, 5 years ago

    Need Invite, Pleeeeease!

    5 points
  • Brian HintonBrian Hinton, 5 years ago

    I'd like to see a dribbble icon. So that way it can be something people can decide to look at in just a glance. And it would allow sorting for people that are genuinely curious about work others are creating.

    3 points
  • aroon Sharmaaroon Sharma, 5 years ago (edited 5 years ago )

    What is wrong if some junior designer post his designs via dribbble and want to get some likes or valuable feedback, do you only want to rich to be more rich :)

    Ignore or downvote if you dont like something but dont stop some one to show his designs whether they are not so cool like celebrity designers, No need to make DN a upper class designers community where junior or other guys can only listen and applaud to big guys.

    https://dribbble.com/aroon

    2 points
  • Taulant SulkoTaulant Sulko, 5 years ago

    I don't understand why self-promotion is looked down on here. I personally don't mind looking at what other people are working on.

    I think we should be a support network for designers and not a place where famous design celebrities/agencies/blogs get even more hype.

    2 points
  • Ronalds Vilcins, 5 years ago

    I think we need to create category for dribbble?

    2 points
  • Account deleted 5 years ago

    The issue is less to do with the where the link is sourced, but how sincere the post of it here is.

    By that I mean, it's only thing to post a dribble link and then comment on how you spend X time on it and thought about Y things to get Z result... AND another to simply post a link and leave.

    Whether it's a top-10 post or a link to Dribble... tell everyone WHY you felt it was worth posting. Give us a little of your thoughts... and quality discussion and comments will emerge as a result.

    2 points
  • Adam FerchAdam Ferch, 5 years ago

    Your post is not news.

    DN is a community. The arbitrary idea that we all need to consume the same content is not relevant. Isn't that what up voting is for?

    1 point
  • Bill Labus, 5 years ago (edited 5 years ago )

    Despite its name I don't consider DN a news site, at least not in the traditional sense of the word "news". Instead I treat it as essentially a Reddit for designers, which I visit to find interesting links. Whether that's a blog post or a dribbble shot doesn't matter, as long as it's interesting and relevant to design.

    1 point
  • Michael AleoMichael Aleo, 5 years ago

    I wish DN had a way to show support for a link, sort of like Reddit. Oh well.

    1 point
  • David SimpsonDavid Simpson, 5 years ago

    Wut is Dribbble?

    1 point
  • Michael PonsMichael Pons, 5 years ago

    Not sure why you think dribbble shots should be banned but hey...check out my latest shot http://bit.ly/1MWaRkO

    1 point
  • Daniel FoscoDaniel Fosco, 5 years ago

    How about we make a separate tab meant for posting your work? We could even have filters, i.e.: shots, sites, cases, etc...

    1 point
  • Jared KrauseJared Krause, 5 years ago

    No

    1 point
  • Robin RaszkaRobin Raszka, 5 years ago

    Yes

    1 point
  • John Jackson, 5 years ago

    Where are some places to gather feedback on design work? It feels like the design community really has no "pub" to socialize, discuss, etc. besides possibly reddit.

    0 points
  • Laurens SpangenbergLaurens Spangenberg, 5 years ago

    I personally haven't seen that many Dribble links here, or least they're not at the point where I would consider it problematic. The occasional Dribbble link that does get highly upvoted tends to be quite significant as well. Perhaps it's not as significant as some of Eli Schiff's early articles, but on the same levels as an average Show DN.

    Besides, many things changed the past three years.

    0 points
  • Justin Rands, 5 years ago

    It's lit: https://dribbble.com/jrandz

    0 points
  • Drew McDonaldDrew McDonald, 5 years ago

    Use the free market baby, downvote shit you don't like and upvote shit you do. It's not hard.

    0 points
  • Account deleted 5 years ago

    All: Let's keep this on-topic. Please remove any comments that simply link to a profile page in the effort to get followers/likes/subscribes/whatever. That is NOT the point of this thread.

    0 points