13 comments

  • Gabriel LovatoGabriel Lovato, almost 4 years ago

    Writing on Medium about Dribbble is becoming a worst crime than actually posting on Dribbble. Seriously. Let's just stop it.

    34 points
  • Ian De DobbelaereIan De Dobbelaere, almost 4 years ago

    So i'm going to try to respect the "be nice" rule on DN as best as i can, but these kind of posts make me angry!

    First of you made this whole account on DN just to jump on the Dribbble hate train (being all "cool" and "edgy") and try to get more traction to your medium post (which everybody hates). You don't really offer a solution you just state your emotions around some bytes on the internet like +300 other people have done before you.

    But i have a solution that fits you.

    1. If you don't like the content of a website just don't visit it. It's not that hard i mean dribbble isn't an angry russian mobster that will kill your whole family if you don't comeback.

    2. People invented the follow button so you could follow the people you are interested in and make content that you like, nobody tells you to look at those "aesthetic" designs go follow people who make shots you like and ignore the rest.

    I'll explain why the current Dribbble "situation" isn't bad. Yeah most of the shots have no function but that's not bad because it about experimenting, you think those clothes you see on the catwalk of fashion weeks are made because those designers think this is what people are going to wear? No it's about experimenting see what you can do and free yourself of functionality, only to come back later take a few steps back and put a function into the design and evolve your style.

    Btw the definition you used is for a verb that needs the be used with a object like for example "to design a new bridge." what you should use is the definition of the word that stand alone "noun". this is the definition then. "an outline, sketch, or plan, as of the form and structure of a work of art, an edifice, or a machine to be executed or constructed.", "organization or structure of formal elements in a work of art; composition." or "the combination of details or features of a picture, building, etc.; the pattern or motif of artistic work" So you misused a definition to create a false argument.

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    18 points
    • Rolando MurilloRolando Murillo, almost 4 years ago

      I was thinking exactly the same re fashion week. Very rude to call them "Useless Designers", what makes him better, really? Just the fact that he's quoting Rams on his article AND on his website?

      1 point
  • Sacha GreifSacha Greif, almost 4 years ago

    Wow. I wasn't convinced by the 57 other posts saying the exact same thing, but somehow this one managed to really change my mind!

    13 points
  • Chris GillisChris Gillis, almost 4 years ago

    I'd say a good start to your approach might be to contact these designers to see why they put these shots on Dribbble. Maybe the first Yoda shot was an exploration from a moodboard the designer created to show a client - the point is you have no idea why people put up a certain shot on Dribbble. Start with asking a question rather than that "...Useless Design..." blanket statement that you posted.

    5 points
  • Ian GoodeIan Goode, almost 4 years ago

    Since you tried to roll out a definition, let's play.

    Dribbble is show and tell for designers.

    What about that suggests that Dribbble is a platform for UI design? Maybe the creators of the shots you posted were approaching them from a graphic design angle?

    People can post whatever they want there, it's a community. If you don't like it ,then don't visit it. And don't try mount a high horse over it.

    4 points
  • Wojciech Zalot, almost 4 years ago (edited almost 4 years ago )

    Honestly I have no idea why there is so much hate regarding what people are posting on Dribbble.

    If you don't like it, fine just don't go there.

    Reading every day nearly the same complains I'm starting to thinking that actually everything that looks different than super simple Bootstrap UI is wrong, because it's not usability enough or will make issues on mobile etc.

    I'm finding dribbble as a good place to research, starting point as sometimes you're looking for a inspiration for some certain elements, not the exact solution.

    Oh and one more thing, design is not only about finding solutions that will change the world it's also about having fun and exploring new directions ;-)

    2 points
  • Kris KimKris Kim, almost 4 years ago

    Not sure if the author of the article would ever see this but if he ever does, I would tell him to go write about so many other useless concept car designers, fashion designers, typographers and whatever designers who design things that will never be put into real use. I'll stay being useless designer.

    1 point
  • Steven CavinsSteven Cavins, almost 4 years ago

    I don't know as many web design folks that go to Dribbble for design inspiration as much as say, five years ago, so you probably have a point in there somewhere.

    That said, who knows what Dribbble is really for. Some people want it to be better for critique or works-in-progress, but the community as a whole has never really embraced any of that specific utility because broad strokes seem to always work best for this product.

    I find myself mostly using resources like PTTRNS that just showcase real stuff in the wild, because that's where actual problems are being addressed (for better or worse.)

    1 point
  • Jay CruzJay Cruz, almost 4 years ago (edited almost 4 years ago )

    I’ve been trying to articulate for a while know why this capital D Design principle, Design not as a verb, but as this big noun that is defined as a field who’s sole purpose is to solve the worlds problems, is actually becoming a problem for us who do visual design. I tried with this Medium Post but it’s sort of a mess and I think it failed, but I still have the same sentiment.

    Be it User Interface Design, or Web Design, or whatever kind of visual design that isn’t print and that has more of an interactive component, we are still using words and graphics to communicate a message. Yes, we make things that have a purpose, a utility, but aesthetics are part of the deal too. And I want to avoid getting into the art vs design rabbit hole, but let’s just say no one accuses a great Illustrator or a great Letterer of having too much style.

    The world of Interactive Design, with this “solutioneering” obsession, is actually discouraging people from getting good a their craft. It basically discourages people from practicing. I’m sure Graphic Designers don’t feel as much pressure to solve the worlds problems as much as Ui Designers do. To be honest, this is even turning me off to Ui Design, because I’m beginning to picture this snob who has read Don Norman’s The Design of Everyday Things a bit too much.

    Clearly this problem goes beyond Ui Designers on Medium hating on Dribbbler’s who get lot’s of likes. The problem is this whole capital D Design trend of trying to cross-discipline Graphic Design and Industrial Design. I don’t think Design as a noun is quite there yet as a discipline that can stand alone by itself. Sure, designing a website or an app benefits a little from applying Industrial Design principles to the process, but still, we’re not making chairs or radios. And really, this whole “solutioneering” thinking is just Design thought leaders selling design. Checkout Jennifer Daniel’s Creative Mornings Talk so you can see what I’m getting at.

    I hope this makes sense to you guys. This is something that I’ve been thinking a lot since I’m about to graduate as a Graphic Design student majoring and specializing in Interactive/Web Design. I don’t know, but the whole Ui/Ux thing is making the Interactive Design world a bit biz douchy. I’ll probably refine and expand this and make it into a Medium post. Let me know what you guys think.

    1 point
  • Martin BavioMartin Bavio, almost 4 years ago

    Medium should start charging whoever wants to write about Dribbble.

    Business model, Ev!

    0 points
  • Ray MartinRay Martin, almost 4 years ago

    Why not let dribbble be whatever its users want it to be? If you don't like what someone's posting or don't think it's solving some fundamental problem, don't follow them.

    0 points
  • Ricard Panadès NadalRicard Panadès Nadal, almost 4 years ago

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    0 points