21 comments

  • Jordan Price, 7 years ago

    The let me in. Then locked my account. I guess a few months ago I was good enough, but now I'm not. Really leaves a good taste in my mouth about their service :P

    They'll probably make some BS excuse about how I don't have enough experience with mobile UI/UX. Ironically I've been doing 100% mobile design over the last 8 months or so. I've just been too busy working to update my personal portfolio with it.

    If they keep up this gated community approach with what they think are the best designers, it's simply going to fail. The best designers don't need work. They're getting drowned in job offers constantly. I would consider myself to be pretty off the radar as far as my dribbble activity goes, and I still get dozens of recruiters contacting me every month.

    I'm probably just a bit jaded now that I'm locked out of the inner circle, but I can imagine they're simply going to whither and die with their current strategy.

    3 points
    • John LockeJohn Locke, 7 years ago

      Thank you Jordan, for sharing your personal experience with this. I think if a gated site is going to succeed, it has to be invite by a member (like becoming a wise guy), or by an assessment by a panel of industry peers and pros. I do not like the idea of it being a mix, and people being cut after being let in. Perhaps the process should include a review process by the gatekeepers before the applicant is allowed to join. It sends a negative message when people are arbitrarily cut after they have been allowed to join.

      1 point
      • João Oliveira SimõesJoão Oliveira Simões, 7 years ago

        Thank you all for so many comments. I was happy to found this website and see all this opinions. Let me answer to you John, They are starting this project now as a side project and they made that mistake, and maybe more. Juiiicy only has one month old. Julien even said on Dribbble that they were not expecting that the users invited their friends with no experience in certain fields and then they had to cut people off. Both people I invited (good designers) had been kicked out. But that's not going to happen anymore. The users don't have the ability to invite now. :S

        0 points
        • John LockeJohn Locke, 7 years ago

          So riddle me this, João...what is the selection process look like going forward?

          0 points
  • Jim SilvermanJim Silverman, over 7 years ago

    Reaganomics for the freelance design world?

    3 points
  • ポール ウェッブポール ウェッブ, 7 years ago

    I think Juiiicy is a great idea. I wish my skills were good enough to be a part of the site, haha! I've had job offers from Dribbble, but maybe less than 10, not 10+ a week. _;

    The guy that made $600 in one week for copy and pasting? Nice

    1 point
  • John LockeJohn Locke, over 7 years ago

    What the world doesn't need is another gated site.

    1 point
    • Sacha GreifSacha Greif, over 7 years ago

      Why not?

      2 points
      • John LockeJohn Locke, over 7 years ago

        Hello Sacha: Because the A-list employers most likely already know who the A-list designers are and should be able to reach them easily. While Juiicy will certainly benefit the designing elite, it may not be relevant to the rest of us. Does that make sense? Congratulations on your work on Sidebar.

        0 points
        • Sacha GreifSacha Greif, over 7 years ago

          Maybe it depends how you define the "designing elite"? If you define it as the best-connected designers, then I agree 100% that it shouldn't be a factor.

          On the other hand if you define it as "the best designers", then I don't see why you can't decide to restrict a community to the most skilled professionals only (at least, that's been my own philosophy with http://folyo.me)

          0 points
          • John LockeJohn Locke, 7 years ago

            Let me back up and clarify so there isn't a misunderstanding. By designing elite, I mean people who are both extremely talented and also very well connected. I believe that the web industry will always be a meritocracy, and it is for that reason I dislike the idea of there being gatekeepers who decide who gets to join, and therefore, earn more money, develop more connections, and possibly gain further prestige. This is a feedback loop, and I do know many industry leading designers who are willing to help those rising through the ranks, but I realize that the design business is very collaborative, and based on talent, teamwork, collaborative effort, but also in some part on familiarity. It is human nature to favor people we already know, and it is difficult to add familiarity with more people past a certain point.

            There are countless designers who blow my ass away who can't even garner a Dribbble invite, and the idea of a gated community that is even more stringent in vetting out candidates worries me. I understand what the service is intended to do, I just do not like the idea of throwing people out after they've already joined. That's a waste of everyone's time.

            Let anyone who meets the talent and experience standards join, but make it crystal clear what those standards are, and who is deciding who gets in and who doesn't, and why.

            My words were not meant to offend anyone; I learned my design values and what I know from those I consider to be elite designers.

            0 points
            • Paul MacgregorPaul Macgregor, 7 years ago

              Would you expect a photographic agency to have an open, democratic process when deciding who they represented? These are businesses providing a service for money, not communities. I think people often confuse the two.

              0 points
              • John LockeJohn Locke, 7 years ago

                Hello Paul: If the members of the site are invited by others already in the site as members, community becomes part of the fabric of the site. If everyone is vetted by the same selection process, then that is what you are describing. And in the end, It doesn't matter, the gatekeeping process for any site will be whatever the owners deem practical.

                0 points
  • Dominik SchmidtDominik Schmidt, 7 years ago

    At my place the funny part was that they approved me first (THEY got me the invite - I got no invite from a user) and after several days they said the same to me, too. But who cares. Do nice things and put them on dribbble to get more inquiries.

    0 points
    • Dominik SchmidtDominik Schmidt, 7 years ago

      Okay, to be honest: You need some follower to make a name on dribbble. I got 1,200 follower and it's also hard for me to get work inquiries and job offers.

      1 point
    • John LockeJohn Locke, 7 years ago

      Agree, Dominik. I believe that you can get more inquiries coming in from Dribbble, a site like Juiicy would work most ideally for people who are already overflowing with work.

      0 points
  • Brooks HassigBrooks Hassig, 7 years ago

    What do you guys think about the gated approach? And the notes the author has about privacy?

    0 points
    • Paul MacgregorPaul Macgregor, 7 years ago

      I think the gated approach is an obvious reaction to the mass freelance sites like oDesk and freelancer.com which have real problems with quality (hirers and freelancers alike).

      But, I've been somewhat amazed at juiiicy's approach of letting anyone in and then banning them later without explanation.

      Privacy concern is a probably valid too. If I emailed someone about a job, I wouldn't expect that job to then be posted publicly (or semi-publicly). Then being expected to pay through the 3rd party with a percentage removed isn't something I'd be entirely comfortable with either.

      But it's an interesting approach and appears to be working for them, so obviously some clients are happy with it.

      4 points
      • ポール ウェッブポール ウェッブ, 7 years ago

        "I've been somewhat amazed at juiiicy's approach of letting anyone in and then banning them later without explanation."

        Likewise, that seems kind of mean. Why not look at that person's work upfront?

        1 point