Personally, I think it's still great. Lot's of stuff got added and it still feels true to what it was.
Andrew, how has the experience/transition been for you? Was it what you expected? Any regrets?
Awesome. No. Yes.
I believe the correct term these days is:
This thread delivers.
I mean, I guess it's not worse than what would have happened if he didn't take it over. But nothing has gotten noticeably better. It's still the same awful links to Medium posts and calls to checkout works on Dribbble by junior designers. I hate this place but I keep coming back for more because I also hate myself.
And are there even moderators on here? Serious question because I can't tell.
Also this x1000
We should not allow links to Medium. It has went downhill. Garb clickbait.
Maybe just a "medium" flag. Call it out. So it can be avoided if you so desire.
This seems like a decent solution.
Well, in all fairness, the domain where the link is pointing to is written right next to the title, do we need more than that?
Think I might have to make a Chrome add-on to do that over the holiday...
Couldn't have said it better myself...minus the part about hating myself.
You shouldn't minus that E.
I agree with you. I've seen spam and questionably highly voted content come trough to the front page a couple of times. I really hope they implement the "Report Spam" button next articles soon. Having to report spam trough "Help Improve DN"/Clippie in the bottom left corner is a bit tedious and slow.
And you don't even need questionably high votes. Ive seen things in the top spot on the front-page with TWO votes. That might be during a slow period, but on any average day you'll see a front-page with plenty of single-digit votes.
You've said what you don't like... do you have any suggestions of what you'd like to see more of?
Yes. Since it's called Designer News, I'd like to see more news and website showcases. The only reason I come here is to see the latest updates in the design world. Instead of just being a better-looking, ripped-off version of Hacker News, I would at the very least like to be able to filter post types so I can only see the "Show DN" type posts, and completely avoid some of the other fluff.
I agree with this 100%. But I've also seen people shitting on legit news posts, then praising crappy posts like this that literally have 2 paragraphs praising TextEdit. 16 upvotes.
It's not news, it's not interesting, it's not anything. Yet the community still seemed to appreciate that post.
I really would like to see this place be a social news aggregator similar to Digg but only for design news. It just seems not everyone here can determine what they deem "newsworthy".
Overall I am really pleased with the site. And I'd rather have it online with some garbage content rather than not online at all.
I personally have only seen what I'll term "Dribbble whoring" once or twice.
Have an upvote for coining "Dribbble whoring".
I don't see a lot of that either.
Like any other site, I only click on something if it sounds interesting.
The cream rises to the top.
What do you expect from a junior designer to earn your esteem?
discussion? since they're (me included) should learn more from their senior.
it still feels true to what it was.
Exactly this. I'm glad that the site has remained relatively unchanged. The content is becoming for frequent and great as always. I do wish that upvote buttons were WAY more prominent on both comments and posts. I feel like so few people are voting on things, even if they read it or reply to it, which makes the site feel emptier than it actually is sometimes.
have an upvote
I can deal with the small upvote buttons since they're similar on Hacker News. Obviously larger would be better, but the design of DN itself actually functions which is all I can ask for.
Although this has little to do with Andrew, I feel like some people are starting to use DN as a way to market themselves to (UI and web) designers akin to how they would use Facebook ads. These articles tend to be a bit more like submarine articles than straight advertisements of course with user profiles which tend to say that they're "Marketers" as well.
The problem I find with these articles is that they often than not get upvoted and at the same time they tend to be of very low quality spewing some opinion on some issue, giving some design productivity trick that's relative to an individual, or even giving some basic design knowledge many of us have used for many years or even decades.
Very well said.
Agreed, and I hate this. We're working on better moderation—bear with us.
Man, so many haters. Adding a Medium post-type and allowing sort / preferences could fix this for those that don't like the types of content.
Junior designers self-promoting is exactly what junior designers should be doing.
But back to what I think about the site since Andrew took over:
It's more engaging, better looking and easier to use.
Needs better moderators.
What kinds of things would you like moderated?
Bot comments and "10 things that ..." links.
I'm all for better ways to moderate the site, but I definitely delete spam posts the second I see them. Links to Medium articles get to stay. For now. :P
This. Is there a way to flag it even?
While it's not pretty, you can report spam using the "Help Improve DN" fellow in the bottom right corner.
The only thing I don't really like is how buried the "thought of the day is." I like it at the top because then there was some weight to it, and people wouldn't change it willy nilly.
I am more than pleased with the way Mr. Wilkinson is running it. Like the fact that all the changes are coming in at a slow, leisurely place instead of going straight-in for a redesign/overhaul.
The one thing I'm missing is a Report button. While not that much, some spam and some really shitty content that is obviously just self-advertising is coming through more and more. A Report button could fix that.
+1 for the report button
It's not perfect, but you can report spam trough the "Help improve DN" icon in the lower right corner.
I wasn't aware that button was for capturing spam reports. But also, I'm guessing since it just opens up my email client, it probably doesn't have any sort of automation behind it. With a dedicated button for it, I think a lot can be done on the server-side to automate hiding/removing the reported post, or flagging it somehow so that it's collapsed and not in a similar vein (e.g. a post that was reported more than X times goes into a "reported" state, etc.)
That's in fact the official way to report spam. I completely agree with you with the other points however as I also would've also prefered a simple Report button.
Agreed, I think they're doing a good job. My one pet peeve with DN is that there doesn't seem to be any duplicate detection, so you can get the same link twice on the front page at the same time.
And I also wish content quality was higher, but believe me there just isn't that much great design content coming out on a daily basis. And yeah, for better or for worse the vast majority of it is on Medium these days.
Yes to the duplicate detection.
There is duplication detection, although it still allows you to post the duplicate link anyway. DN is one of the few sites that actually needs it since websites redesign themselves. It does give a very clear warning however. So it's more the users' fault.
I like how things have been going. Honestly, one of the best changes is to just start typing 'designernews' in the URL bar when I want to swing by instead of 'news.'
That's not to undersell the other changes that have been going on. Someone else said it still feels true to what it is, and I have to agree. Thanks Andrew for what you've put into this.
being able to edit everything wins
Well, for one, I don't have to type in a silly "news.layervault.com" address to get to "Designer News". It's the little things in life.
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Still waiting for a way to downvote content. Would fix nearly every complaint in this thread. I understand the reasoning behind not having it, but it would be worth a try. "Downvote-weeks at DN" or something.
It could have just died when LayerVault did, and I'm grateful it didn't. Also, Andrew has the right to do whatever he wants with it. So I'm grateful to him for maintaining it and investing in it as much as he has because he doesn't owe that to us.
Overall I'm pretty happy with how things are going...I mainly come here for updates and info on new design apps, showcases for design, new ways of doing things etc...
one of the things i've been very pleased about is the way Adobe has been so active here talking about Comet etc... that, and learning about Figma, webflow etc etc.... it'd be nice to see some info about pinegrow here as well...like an 'ask me anything' with him...or even better, chat with the guy making 'blocs'....absolutely LOVE the Blocs app...(and I hear he has big plans for the next version of Blocs coming out next quarter)
I wish we could flag posts for self-promotion. People are just submitting links to their dribbble / medium posts.
Would love to see more moderation to root out that stuff. Keeping this place focused on news, it's becoming too much personal brand marketing.
I think the community just has to be more active. Going out and finding news to submit to add into the content pool. Maybe right now the community is too small? I know there isn't as much design news as tech news, but the design industry is growing rapidly.
And that I have zero problem with. There's just a lot of self-promotion posting going on and I don't think it's helpful to the community. I think it'd be another thing if the posts were coming from someone else, but that just implies a sense of honor system, so it's probably worthless.
I feel like there were a flurry of changes in the beginning but that these have stalled.
The mention of the day should return to the top; I literally don't see the point in having it after 8 posts – that's almost after the fold on my Macbook. If it's meant to be something of a focal point, then make it the top item. If it's deemed as unimportant as having it 9th in the list, then remove it. As it is, it doesn't satisfy any reasonable criteria.
Posting duplicate content is a very regular occurrence. As much as there is a notice which tells the user that they're about to post a duplicate, it clearly isn't working. Perhaps it needs to be bigger?
Quality of news is decent, especially when you consider the size of the community compared to a couple of years ago. Sure, a lot of stuff is on Medium, doesn't mean it's all poop.
Moderation would be nice, to remove duplicates, remove abusive posts or people just being mean (adding a Report Post) button.
Overall, the most important thing is that it continues to "feel" like DN – adding a series of bloated features might just detract from the real reason we all started coming here; Design focused news with the occasional level headed discussion.
I like it and I think he's been very respectful, I just wish it was a more active community. Perhaps it's because I'm in the UK so you're all asleep while I'm at work but it takes days before the front page changes.
I wasn't here much prior but the spam/lack of moderation is frustrating.
Wait somebody took over? had no clue :D So i guess its alright for me :D
Yeah the previous owner was LayerVault, a version control service for graphic files like PSDs.
They shut down but instead of closing Designer News they decided to sell it.
Yeah i know i was on the site before the open registrations but thought the guys of LayerVault still owned designernews.