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Show DN: Stamps & Sons

3 years ago from , Product Designer

Hey Designer News, today we're announcing a new site at stampsandsons.com, and we'd love to have you check it out!

This little side endeavour was originally started as an effort to scratch our own itch. Jeff (one of the sons) was running a retail shop at the time and was disappointed in how much of a headache it was to order a little rubber stamp for his bags and boxes.

We talked about the huge gap around creative products like rubber stamps. The industry was rampant with old technology that made the process of turning a design into a stamp a real pain. Perhaps most importantly, there was a serious lack of good design practices and modern web technologies in that space. So, we decided there had to be a better way and went to work.

What’s most exciting for us is seeing people make stamps for those really important moments in their lives: they’re starting or rebranding their business, or announcing an event like a wedding. It’s so rewarding to be a small part of that process.

Have a peek. Let me know if you have any questions, and we are certainly open to your feedback and response. Cheers!

25 comments

  • Stephan AngoStephan Ango, 3 years ago

    Interesting! I certainly agree with your thesis, although it would have been nice if some of your UI/wording was not lazily lifted from Lumi.com.

    Competition should make our industry better and more honest. There's definitely room for you to build this product with a modicum of respect and originality.

    Just one example:

    From lumi.com/help

    If I upload a design, who owns the rights? Your designs remain your property! Anything uploaded to Lumi is the property of its original creator. That means you must control the rights to any design you upload to Lumi.

    By the nature of our service, you also grant Lumi a non-exclusive license to manufacture products (such as silk screens, stencils, etc) from your design. If you choose to make your design public, other users can also order products made from that design. Currently, products made from your designs can only be purchased for personal use. Note that Lumi also reserves the right to use anything posted to Lumi to promote the site. Please read our Terms of Service for more detail.

    From stampsandsons.com/pages/faq

    If I upload a design, who owns the rights? Your design remains your own. Anything you upload is the property of its creator, which also means you must control the rights to any design you upload.

    By the nature of our service, you also grant us a non-exclusive license to manufacture products from your design. Note that we also reserve the right to use anything uploaded to promote the site. Please read our Terms of Service for more detail.

    6 points
    • Jesse Campbell, 3 years ago (edited 3 years ago )

      Hey Stephan, I totally hear you. We've been contrasting our site with Lumi's for a while, and though we want to offer the same level of service, we certainly don't want to be a carbon copy.

      The FAQ stuff was definitely last minute—the legal stuff was either copied from Shopify's auto-filler, or pulled from other sites like Facebook, Twitter, among others just to get something in there.

      We're a big fan of Lumi's, and I have used your stuff in the past. We've been working on building our customer base on Etsy for about a year and a half. I'm hoping we can find a bit of space for one another—we are fans of yours. Thanks for the heads up about the content. I'm going to jump on a rewrite asap.

      1 point
      • Stephan AngoStephan Ango, 3 years ago (edited 3 years ago )

        Litigation ain't my thing, but when I see words I wrote literally copy/pasted, it makes my blood boil. It's just lazy. I hope I can appeal to your sense of self-respect and not have to take it any further than that.

        5 points
        • Jesse Campbell, 3 years ago

          Understood, and yea it certainly does. I'll work on some improvements—sorry it came off as lazy. I know you guys have put a ton of work into your product. This is our first foray into a bit of a new realm, and I hope we can find a way where you're not feeling as though we're stepping on toes.

          1 point
          • Stephan AngoStephan Ango, 3 years ago

            I've been a fan and paying customer of various Metalab/Pixel Union endeavors for years. I think of y'all as good guys in the industry. There's room to be creative here. I know you guys can do better. Thank you.

            4 points
    • Jim SilvermanJim Silverman, 3 years ago

      really? we're accusing services of having similar legal terms now?

      0 points
      • Stephan AngoStephan Ango, 3 years ago

        Not similar legal terms. Word for word plagiarizing of sales copy and FAQ materials I wrote. The example I quoted happens to be somewhat legal in nature, but that isn't any less damning.

        1 point
      • Jesse Campbell, 3 years ago

        I think Stephan made a very fair point. Although our offerings are not as broad or far reaching as Lumi's, our services are very similar. It was our oversight during the hectic prelaunch moments to "get back to it." (Hell, I even forgot to upgrade our Fontdeck account from trial until the very last minute!)

        Far be it from me to intentionally cause any boiled blood, but it did give me the opportunity to go through and revise some things so that our voice is unique—and we'll continue to do so indefinitely in the UI, marketing, and our customer support.

        I hope no feelings were permanently damaged in the process, and that we can learn from one another. (I suppose that's what this community is about.) This launch was a number of "firsts" for me, and I've got a page full of notes on where I need to improve next time.

        0 points
  • Matt WestMatt West, 3 years ago

    Looks awesome Jesse. Nice work!

    Have you got any plans to ship to the UK in the future?

    3 points
    • Jesse Campbell, 3 years ago

      Hey Matt, thanks for checking it out.

      At the moment we've only got Canada and USA in the pipe, but have got a few shouts from UK and Australia. Once the post-launch bug-watching calms down (a couple days), we're going to price it out and see if it's viable.

      Have you done much shopping from the US shipping to UK before? What kind of prices have you seen? (For some reason I assume they're astronomic, but I could be very wrong.)

      0 points
      • Sander VisserSander Visser, 3 years ago

        From the US to the Netherlands can differ a lot. I have bought stuff from eBay with $7 to $15 shipping, but some webshops charge around $30. I've been shipping items from the Netherlands to the US for a while, but these were like 18 pounds and cost around $65.

        Nice one on the website. Keep us posted on international shipping!

        1 point
        • Jesse CampbellJesse Campbell, 3 years ago

          Definitely. Thanks for the insight on your shipping experiences! We'll dig in, and if we're able to offer shipping at a rate that seems affordable, we'll implement. And if that happens, I'll be sure to post an update to the DN community.

          1 point
        • Jesse CampbellJesse Campbell, 3 years ago

          Hey Sander, I've done a bit of digging, and though shipping internationally is not currently on our docket, it's my understanding that Lumi (lumi.com) ships globally. Happy stamping! :)

          0 points
    • Jesse Campbell, 3 years ago

      Hey Matt, maybe you got a reply notification to my response to Sander below, but I've done a bit of digging, and though shipping internationally is not currently on our docket, it's my understanding that Lumi (lumi.com) ships globally. Happy stamping! :)

      0 points
  • Mathew SissonMathew Sisson, 3 years ago

    Awesome concept, and I'll probably give it a whirl. I end up making around a half dozen stamps for various projects a year. I would reconsider your selection of ways to have a stamp designed in your FAQ though. I cringed a bit when you recommend Fiverr and 99 Designs.

    1 point
    • Jesse Campbell, 3 years ago

      Thanks Matt, and good point on the Fiverr/99 Designs thing. I was hesitant to put those on there too, as they're not something I support as a designer. I was, however, at a bit of a loss for another "quick and inexpensive" solution to offer.

      I would hope a design project for a logo gets the attention it deserves, but a number of our customers have asked for super simple designs in the past (eg. this word in this font), and since we're not offering in house design services I wanted to point them in the right direction—perhaps we'll rethink that strategy.

      0 points
  • Jesse Campbell, 3 years ago

    Hey Designer News, we just launched a super easy way to make rubber stamps from any graphic. Our customers (mostly small biz owners and entrepreneurs) are finding it handy to have one around as a quick marketing solution.

    Our goal is to make it as easy as possible to get creative tools in your hands. I'm excited to hear what you think! If you have any questions, I'm happy to chat about it—and, uh, happy stamping!

    1 point
  • Hans YadavHans Yadav, 3 years ago (edited 3 years ago )

    I absolutely love the onboarding process. The gigantic upload box on the landing page screams "Try me!" Very, very nice.

    I uploaded a few different images (some actual photographs while others being random graphics) and was impressed with the preview process. How do you guys process the images to make the stamps?

    The only little suggestion I have is a little more transparency on the pricing. Intuitively I understand that more complex images fetch a higher price tag, but I'm still not sure exactly how.

    Other than that, great job!

    EDIT:

    Wait scratch that last bit about pricing. Pricing is based on stamp size (right?). I thought the images I uploaded were similar sizes.

    1 point
    • Jesse Campbell, 3 years ago

      Cheers Hans! That's awesome feedback.

      Glad you were able to understand the pricing—you're right to assume that it's based on size. You can use the little slider or the text fields to adjust the size of your stamp's imprint.

      Regarding image processing—there is certainly some secret-sauce in there, but we started with finding and customizing a JS port of Potrace to analyze raster images and convert them to vector. That, and a dash of magic. ;)

      Let me know if you have any other questions, and thanks again for having a look!

      0 points
  • Tyler SomersTyler Somers, 3 years ago

    Congrats on the launch! This looks fantastic. Perfect timing, too, I'm looking to make some stamps for something fun in our studio.

    1 point
    • Jesse Campbell, 3 years ago

      Hey Tyler, that's great news. Use the discount code LAUNCHPARTY at checkout for 10% off. :)

      0 points
  • Athyuttam Reddy, 3 years ago

    Would be nice to have a few example images I can try out without having to go hunt for my own!

    0 points