The case against Dropbox was already pretty strong after Condoleezza Rice joined the board.
Why do people immediately bring this up, every single time, without fail, after mentions of Dropbox? Name one other person, on any board, of any company.
I don't get why she's brought up against dropbox either but to answer your question, Al Gore is on the board of Apple. :D
I noticed you also posted a comment about CEO Drew Houston giving the NSA backdoor access. Hopefully you see how these two points are related.
No, I don't. Enlighten me.
Prism the NSA project that involves backdoors, requires almost all major companies to provide it: http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/6/4403868/nsa-fbi-mine-data-apple-google-facebook-microsoft-others-prism
Why would that impact the usability of their product?
The article doesn't really criticise Dropbox's usability (it actually says they're still the best for file syncing), rather it's concerned with Dropbox's lack of innovation, leadership and direction as a company.
My related point is that the addition of someone to the board of a data-storage company who advocated a huge illegal wiretapping programme, whilst in government, doesn't exactly help their leadership problem.
Given that Dropbox brought her in to tackle "privacy issues", it was also an incredibly tone-deaf move and symptomatic of the article's other point that Dropbox is out of touch.
Not everything is about usability.
This is what you call a "red herring"
I'm definitely not thrilled about Condi, but I'm still a paying dropbox user. I would never use a Google product because of their TOS (not interested in them being a co-copyright holder). Microsoft products are also out of the question. I have yet to see a better solution than Dropbox for the simple things I need to do. I'd much rather them have less than do some of the half-assed stuff Apple and Evernote have done.
I'm in the same boat. I've tried all other platforms and felt like none got the job done, it's just a simple job: keep all of my files in sync. I have about 8 total devices (work + personal) and have certain things synced for certain devices, and I've found Dropbox to completely blow the competition out of the water.
From personal photos to work files to archived stuff, I need one platform to do it all. I'll be a Dropbox Pro user until something better comes along (which isn't anytime soon).
I came here to say almost exactly this. I've tried all of the big services—Google Drive, Box, and iCloud—and none even come close to Dropbox's experience. I really, really wanted to switch to Google Drive, but the shoddy desktop app and lack of support for integrations (1Password and Marvel, specifically) were dealbreakers for me. Dropbox is the only service I've found that gives me the consistent and fluid cross-device experience that I'm looking for.
Mind sharing where in Google's TOS it says you share your copyright with them? Can't seem to find language like that.
Dropbox still has the best UI imo. Google Drive is too complex and has a lot of confusion points. Box doesn't feel right to me either. I personally would be bummed to see Dropbox go. Hopefully they don't or at least not anytime soon.
I'm seriously thinking of switching to Google Drive these days.
Google handles Photos and Videos 1000x better than Dropbox does, although neither allow for easy sharing of photos to Facebook which is annoying.
I'm thinking of switching to SpiderOak. Anyone has experiences with SpiderOak? I love their privacy philosophy/feature (which DropBox doesn't have).
Mobile operating systems evolved to hide the file system, making Dropbox look less like a command hub for your digital life and more like an arcane plumbing system. Yeah, nope.
The many varied attempts to obfuscate files and folders over the years have pretty much all been completely broken and unusable. “Let’s stick everything in a proprietary database” sounds cool until you get hit with one of the many issues it causes.
I have only one machine and backup to a Time Capsule.
Let's also not forget that Drew Houston indirectly admitted to giving the NSA backdoor access. http://www.zdnet.com/article/after-snowden-slams-dropbox-twice-ceo-responds-its-a-trade-off/
They used to at least "look & feel" nicer and different than all the others, but that's all flattened out by homogeneity at this point. And, of course, they don't have Google Docs, so the enterprise factor is kind of lacking for businesses that like consolidation of services.
What do you yall use, then?
- Creative Cloud Files?
I was on Dropbox for years until the sync client pissed me off for the last time. I moved us over to Drive, which was built-in to our Google Apps anyway. But the Drive client is garbage (fast, but garbage).
More than anything I want to be able to get a share link for any file in my local [Dropbox|Drive] folder in a jiffy, and Drive made that a huge pain.
So now I'm back with Dropbox, but ready to jump.
I use Drive. I don't have the share link issues you do (
right click > Google Drive > Shareon the item in question), but still feel like the product category as a whole hasn't quite been figured out. Drive is just the closest atm.
Yeah, but clicking on
Sharethen opens a window with a bunch of controls and maybe a text field from which you can then finally copy a link. Right? That's how I remember it.
I just want a URL for the thing I already uploaded to a cloud somewhere; this should replace Droplr or CloudApp or whatever.
Using InSync as my sync app for Google Drive might be the best solution. Multiple accounts, too.
Yeah, you have to click 'Get Link'. It's also an absurdly long URL. I wish they'd take the Google Photos approach and apply it to Drive; I suspect they keep it because it would break many, many links.
BTSync, The ridiculous cost of Dropbox and the whole war criminal thing drove me away years ago.
I use Box. So far, it's not perfect, but just as capable as anything else. Way more features than you'd expect.
If I were running Dropbox, I would be thinking real hard about how I could knock down Amazon's web services. Dropbox design and product thinking applied to something like Amazon S3 and friends would be bonkers.
The timing of this is interesting. My company is dropping dropbox in favor of Google Drive.
Very, we are in the same position. We started experimenting with Google Apps for Work a few years ago, but were using Dropbox. It wasn't until my largest client switched his business over 100% from Dropbox to Google Drive that my mind started to change a bit. If it works for a company 10x our size, and we have GAFW anyway? Why shouldn't we do it?
There have been a few syncing bugs compared to Dropbox at times, but overall, I much rather have all my work-related files on our work GAFW accounts with Google Drive.
One thing I did do though was rename the folder "Google Drive" to just "drive" because I use command line at times with client repositories and such for coding (use git) and using and having to use quotes around "Google Drive" instead of just was a pain.
So far, happy with the switch, but Dropbox was definitely more advanced when it came to syncing. Google Drive crashed about 30 times before everything properly synced up the initial time (talking 100k files or so). We'll see how it goes.
Happy customer of Dropbox for a small agency, here. It has enabled us to build a company without a file server, which is great. We've also considered Google Drive (as a European company, we have qualms with clients finding out we're using Google servers for their data) and Amazon WhateverStupidName (which doesn't "feel" as solid on the desktop and lacks the ecosystem support for iOS apps).
We have had to start using WeTransfer for delivering to clients, because the use case for transfer is different enough. And recently bought a NAS to have our own backup (that also pushes to Amazon Glacier)…when you get to the point of not syncing to any workstations, it's uncomfortable to think Dropbox is the only place your files live.
If we are representative of their customer base, they have failed to create lockin. And if this article accurately reflects their attitude towards product development, I sure wouldn't be investing in them!