Nothing shocking here. There are two types of Dribbble comments:
- Great work!
- You stole this!
Or the typical compliment-insult/feedback sandwich:
"Awesome work Dribbbler! Although I'd probably change one thing because our aesthetics do not align. Otherwise this is amazing keep it up!"
I don't know if i'd go as far as calling it an insult. Compliment-feedback sandwich, maybe.
Sure. I mean sometimes constructive, sometimes it's not.
What's wrong with that though? At least there's some feedback in there...
Not saying there's anything wrong, just an observation.
Literally made a comment like that 5 minutes ago!
It's just an opinion we offer, not an insult. We shouldn't design in a bubble.
Oh my god.
What are you looking for them to be? Real critique a la Brand New? It's cheerleading, not critiquing for better or worse.
What specifically are you referring to?
The fact that 20 people are linking to the same pages about how the logo vaguely looks like another logo.
It's not helpful. I'm really disappointed with Dribbble. It's become a vanity thing.. I always use 'WIP' next to things that aren't finished - so I'd love to get some form of critical feedback on my work, not "nice!" or "this looks like this".
Have any alternatives popped up for proper feedback? I tried Tavern when it was still called Forrst (or something like that) but always felt like the level of designs was a lot lower.
My best source of feedback - colleagues. Apart from that, deviant art? Although that place has always been a little odd to me.
I think there needs to be a reform on Dribbble - Whilst praise is always a nice thing to hear, it doesn't necessarily confirm anything, apart from that people are lazy - and certainly won't help any of us become better designers. I tried Tavern, it felt so bloated and as you've said - the standards were a little low.
Yes I agree. I feel like the Dribbble "community" is too focused on getting likes, gaining followers, etc.
Why isn't there a DF yet? Designer Feedback, the next step for DN.
It's practically impossible Ruben. On every site you "need" to rank users based on something. If not, there's no way of ranking content. You would get frustrated on a site that has no ranking systems. Even on Dribbble, you can see a lot of "crappy" work that probably shouldn't be there. There are lot's of guys that don't put to much effort on making "content"pretty and you certainly don't want to look that stuff on a site that you most probably use for inspiration. No matter the system (because let's face it, not even the Dribbble invite system is bulletproof) you will get guys that post shitty work and that doesn't meet standards. And maybe I'm one of those guys. That's why likes and followers are necessary, and it's not all just about vanity. The shots stream you have on Dribbble is huge, and nobody pays you to review them. I don't think you'd enjoy a place where there's no "quality meter" and almost all of the work you see is below standard.
Regarding the Facebook's M comments... Their M logo doesn't "vaguely look like another logo". It's almost identical. So THAT kind of comments are constructive. They are aggressive, yes. They are surely not the most friendly way of telling someone they've made a mistake. But that's probably something you can expect from designers, since nobody likes to be copied.
Kind of off-topic PS: You also need to consider we are not all experts on every piece of design "type" that gets posted on Dribbble. Check out my comment here. I really liked the shot, specially it's colors. But I know very little about illustration, so what kind of comment do you expect from me? An "I really like this!" comment is vague and imprecise, but I cannot give an illustrator quality feedback without being an illustrator myself (considering the illustration doesn't suck), but I'm still allowed to leave a cheerful comment recognizing he did a nice job.
Yes I completely get that. With no ranking system all you're getting is unfiltered content. But that doesn't mean that content is not what you are looking for.
You're saying that a "site that you most probably use for inspirationg" can't do without ranking content. But a site that you use purely for feedback might be different.
Even other systems could help maintain a community that revolves around giving and receiving feedback. I'm thinking of something like stackoverflow. Where users are ranked based on their comments (feedback in this case) instead of their posts.
Anyway, I think there's an opportunity somewhere. It feels like something is missing.
I understand your point of view, but I must point out that Stack Overflow is a totally different matter and even there, many questions are also stupid/mediocre and get insulted or ignored by users.
Put yourself in the reviewers place, and ask yourself if you'd like to review and correct crappy work most of the time. It's kind of unrealistic. Nobody likes that.
I do agree that some kind of feedback feature would be a nice-to-have on Dribbble.
We've started doing public critique in our Slack channel with a hosted one every week.
Dann Petty's actually hosting one today. Might be what you're looking for.
Wow cool. Checking it out right now. However I hadn't heard of the podcasts before so it's a bit hard for me to understand what the purpose of those channels is? People share work through wake on slack so others can give feedback?
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But is it really as bad as Behance comments?
Is Dribbble really the place that you are expecting quality feedback? I think it is fair to say that Dribbble has become a place for curated content to be inspired by or show their stuff.
This idea of quality feedback on Dribbble has been lost for some time now.
Nice use of blue in this style :-)
To be honest, I think this problem is not just isolated to Dribbble. If you check Vimeo for example - which is supposed to be a similar community but for professional videographers instead - the comments are similarly uninspiring. It's hard to build a community based on professional feedback in a field where good aesthetics are often praised more than good thinking.
Yea, but that's what the concept of dribble is. It's a small snippet of something something that has only the purpose of being nice to look at. What kind of other critique are you expecting on a platform like that?
Oh look, the thing you made to look really nice and neat in a 600x800 box looks really nice!
Why even bother to go on dribbbbbbbbble? I never get its appeal.
A lot of work in our industry these says is very similar to be sure -- I remember a (now-deleted) shot from this Dribbble profile that looked very similar to Ryan Putnam's work as well.
Especially the second page.
I guess nothing interesting happens in the comments on Dribbble anymore? Or maybe it's always been this bad...
One of our designers was annoyed by the samey: "Yeay! Mega like! #love #woo!!!" comment that is all you see on Dribbble these days.
I think his pet hate was "clean lines".
One of the designers here
Clean lines. Flipping clean lines. It's like, no shit, comprised of vectors, on a white background, in one colour. TELL ME SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW.
I think it has always been like that https://www.designernews.co/stories/23974-dribbble-comments