• Neil Pullman, over 7 years ago (edited over 7 years ago )

    I've never used streamus but I've developed against the YouTube API a fair amount. And I hate to side with the massive corporation in any case... but it seems like he's being intentionally combative or just willfully ignorant. Hiding the video has always been against the ToS as far as I know. And I mean, your app is using a lot of bandwidth/resources for free. Of course they expect their advertisements to be playable.

    I'm all for building cool things and asking for forgiveness/permission later. But once they've called you out on it you either need to make some changes, shut down, or lawyer up. Or build your own content provider. At the very least, you've come out of it with a portfolio piece and some great experience.

    3 points
    • Marcel Christianis, over 7 years ago

      I really like Streamus and I think it was excellent. The developer made a valid point I think regarding Youtube has popularly been used as a "music streaming service" and what he did was merely taking the same experience on a different interface.

      With that said, I think you also do have a valid point. In any case, such a shame to see a really good extension go.

      0 points
    • Sunni F, over 7 years ago

      At first glance, what you are saying is right-on. But this is far more complicated than that. He's been in convo with them for a long, long time, working in collab with them! They iniitally offered him internal support as they loved it. Then they gave him special contacts inside. And then...well...here's one post that occurred along that timeline:: https://www.facebook.com/GetStreamus/posts/947046728653020

      They tried to do a aqui-hire. Things went south when he turned them down.

      After that point, he tried to comply. He did video that responded to hover (playlists under), did video that was sticky, and then offered video tacked to taskbar using Sreamus as the player from browser bar. The latter provided more stickiness than YouTube itself provides. No minimization.

      They vetoed all three but drug him through changing goal posts each time.

      This past week, after silence, they finally contacted him with some changing of their demands.

      One of the record executives in Capitol Records invited him down there to talk about it...and even offered him Capitol Records Resources to grow Streamus. But the parent company is UMG. They are a pia. They blacklisted it -- for not showing ads.

      BUT, the ads don't display ...that's a YouTube code issue, not Streamus.

      Anyway, won't go into all the nitty gritty but just know there's far, far, far more to this.

      1 point
  • Caleb SylvestCaleb Sylvest, over 7 years ago

    A good example and warning to anyone building a product reliant on another business! There are pros and cons, but cons can include being totally at the mercy of the biz.

    Good luck to Streamus.

    1 point
  • Sunni F, over 7 years ago

    See this one too.. https://twitter.com/streamus/status/563050441811189762

    0 points
  • Mohsin NaqiMohsin Naqi, over 7 years ago

    I've used and really liked Streamus. The UI of the player is aesthetically pleasing and a joy to use. I'll definitely miss it. :(

    0 points