28 comments

  • Sacha GreifSacha Greif, over 8 years ago

    You guys do know that TweetDeck probably just hired a freelancer, or used some stock art that itself was plagiarized, right? It's not like companies go out of their way to find some poor designer's work to copy it…

    It's fun to get the pitchforks out, but in 99% of cases these things can be resolved by sending an email, without resorting to publicly shaming a company.

    Which –it bears repeating– is made up of actual people just like you and me, who also have feelings (I know! Crazy, right!).

    58 points
    • Ariel VerberAriel Verber, over 8 years ago

      If it was a small startup, then yeah. Twitter is worth over $30b. I cant see this happen to facebook, dropbox, mailchimp or any other company who really values design, in all aspects

      5 points
      • pjotr .pjotr ., over 8 years ago

        I'm wondering how they got the vectors in order to mirror the details on the characters. They could have just 1 for 1 traced it but that seems unlikely.

        Point being. If the designer put their vector work out on the web for free then whose fault is it? Twitter for using it or the designer for being naive?

        0 points
        • Victor WareVictor Ware, over 8 years ago

          They probably traced it. Actually I think that would be the most likely case since the line work is a bit off from the original. I doubt they would change the stroke just for the hell of it.

          2 points
        • Geoff RogersGeoff Rogers, over 8 years ago

          It looks like it was redrawn by eye to me. Lots of things are just ever-so-slightly different.

          But to your point: The original designer is not to blame at all. Someone stole from him. He could have posted his source files publicly, but unless he specified otherwise the work remains his and freelance designers or companies like Twitter should know better.

          4 points
    • Alex Cragg, over 8 years ago

      Markus only tweeted 'Where's the cat?' - that's hardly public shaming. He too has feelings, and doesn't like his work being ripped off ;)

      20 points
    • Dirk HCM van BoxtelDirk HCM van Boxtel, over 8 years ago

      Sacha how dare you use common sense. Get your "reason" out of here this instant. This is an angry thread!

      6 points
    • Geoff RogersGeoff Rogers, over 8 years ago

      This "pitchforks" retort has gotten a lot of traction lately. It's good that people want to fight back against Internet mob syndrome - which can be extraordinarily ugly - but I think there's still room for a little outrage. One designer stealing from another isn't exactly the crime of the century, but it's crappy behaviour nonetheless.

      I hope whoever is guilty here does have feelings, because they should be ashamed. Somehow I doubt it though.

      2 points
      • Sacha GreifSacha Greif, over 8 years ago

        The point here is not that we shouldn't blame designers for stealing other's work, the point is that we shouldn't blame TweetDeck (at least before we know more).

        “TweetDeck” is not a sentient entity who willingly copies other designer's work. “TweetDeck” is a group of people, one of which may have copied this (or it may have been a third party hired by TweetDeck. We just don't know, is the point).

        3 points
    • Daryl GinnDaryl Ginn, over 8 years ago

      I love you, Sacha. My thoughts exactly.

      0 points
    • Ragnar VorelRagnar Vorel, over 8 years ago

      Exactly what I wanted to say after first seeing it. Even if it wasn't a freelancer, it might've been one of their own designers – and even so it all comes down to just one person. TweetDeck or Twitter, as a company, would've had no idea this is a blatant ripoff whichever the case. But it's clear someone's gonna be in deep crap now, deservedly so.

      0 points
  • Leo LamprechtLeo Lamprecht, over 8 years ago

    I just don't understand why the hell you're so fucking upset. Have you ever heard of the word "inspiration"?

    Did they copy his artwork? No. Did they use the same haircut and face expression? Yes.

    I don't see the problem here. People should be proud that a big company like Twitter uses their art for inspiration.

    It's the same thing with Spotify. Is Tidal really a copy of Spotify? No. Did they also put the navbar on the left side and create a few rectangles for the "browser"-section with the same labels on it? Yes. THEY DID NOT COPY ANY FUCKING SHIT... :D

    9 points
    • Victor WareVictor Ware, over 8 years ago

      Try that with Mickey Mouse and see what happens.

      14 points
    • wojtek w.wojtek w., over 8 years ago

      in·spi·ra·tion — the process of being mentally stimulated to do or feel something, especially to do something creative

      Did they copy his artwork?

      Yes.

      11 points
    • Chris Howard, over 8 years ago (edited over 8 years ago )

      Inspiration has limits. Inspiration might copy ideas and style, but it doesn't involved blatantly copying an image.

      Copying someone's image, flipping it horizontally, removing a few elements is not inspiration.

      It's still a copy of the Mona Lisa if it's mirrored and painted in different colours.

      4 points
    • Wil NicholsWil Nichols, over 8 years ago

      Are you joking

      7 points
    • Noah MittmanNoah Mittman, over 8 years ago

      Inspiration = mirroring and tracing. Got it.

      7 points
    • Daniel SamuelsDaniel Samuels, over 8 years ago

      It disappoints me that Designer News doesn't allow me to downvote comments.

      4 points
    • Jared CJared C, over 8 years ago

      lol at this. I hope you are trolling.

      3 points
  • Ian WilliamsIan Williams, over 8 years ago

    fuck.

    6 points
  • Zander MartineauZander Martineau, over 8 years ago

    that's fucking ridiculous

    5 points
  • Luke Whitehouse, over 8 years ago

    Interesting to see that this was brought to Markus' attention around a month ago. I imagine he's trying emailing them etc, but to no avail?

    4 points
  • William GuerraWilliam Guerra, over 8 years ago

    Markus is a pretty big name in the design world too. Pretty dumb to use his stuff.

    4 points
  • Jamie MartinJamie Martin, over 8 years ago

    The most disappointing part is that they removed the cat

    2 points
  • David DarnesDavid Darnes, over 8 years ago

    Can't see an official reply from them yet.

    2 points
  • Juan VelascoJuan Velasco, over 8 years ago

    The most unfair part of all this is, by posting that screenshot the way he did it, he's helping them spread the message about TweetDeck now having a Teams functionality. I didn't know and now I do. Even though I think plagiarism sucks, it's an interesting feature I would like to check out :/

    0 points
  • Alexander ZizzoAlexander Zizzo, over 8 years ago

    for shame

    0 points