6 years ago from Mahdi Farra
Anyone else is noticing that "some" tech news websites are submitting their articles in here? It's kind of ruining the experience in here, if I want to read your fuc*ing article I would go to your website.
I think they should be banned.
Posts bitching about news websites polluting designer news are polluting designer news.
You want different content? Then vote and post that content.
I do vote, but I don't think that's enough. But I don't think I'm the only one who sees this as a problem, There 7 votes on this post, so probably others are having the same issue as me.
I'm not agreeing with either of you but I wanted to point out that this post has 7 votes while his reply has 13 votes.
17 now. But still that means there are some people who are bothered.
"In recent news, numbers increment over time. More at 11."
Hi Mahdi,
Thanks for your concerns. We're looking into this, but don't see any evidence of foul play at the moment.
For us, it's important to keep the enforceability of our rules simple and clear-cut. "No news sites" will be difficult to enforce, since then it's up to us to declare what is and is not a news site
In this specific case, we'll let the community decide via voting. We'll keep an eye on this, though.
Ah thank you Kelly!
Can we please have a downvote link? This would solve this issue and I believe that this community is mature enough to have that option.
Hi Brennan,
We currently give downvote powers to those with enough karma, admins, and mods.
Interesting. Why the restriction?
Trolling probably, those strange creatures do also live within the walls of DN
If everyone had downvote powers from the get-go, many stories would have negative scores.
Truth.
How much karma does one need to qualify for "downvote" power?
I'd say if it's relevant/deserves discussion, who are we to ban. Just because you've already heard it, doesn't mean everyone has; just because you check that website already, doesn't mean everybody does..
(I for one probably don't, DN is one of the few sites I check on a regular basis.)
If it's not relevant, that's another story.
It's not that I have heard it or read the article, it's that they're posting irrelevant stuff in here, and also sometimes stuff that's clearly an ad!
Design is a broad subject, who are we to say that what's relevant? If you don't like something, look away. I for one don't check those tech sites, but I always find it interesting when I see the submissions on here. Office for Mac for example, I wouldn't have visited TNW willingly to find it.
Oh really? Thank you for asking me to look away!
I think those news websites have their own audience and they're now trying to steal some from here, that's why I'm concerned. I also don't think it's fair to let them post stuff and market their websites for free.
So if the news is written by yourself it's not news?
This is a link aggregation site. Many of the posts are links to news articles and it's good content.
I sometimes rely on Designer News to discover news from all the tech blogs
The most reasonable reply I've read so far. I totally agree with you.
This answer totally contradicts your opening statement:
It's kind of ruining the experience in here, if I want to read your fuc*ing article I would go to your website.
I'd say someone can change their perspective with good discussion. Perhaps that is the case here?
I actually do feel that the quality of articles has diminished in recent days, and whether that just means a lull in good content, or an increase in poor content I don't know.
Thank you.
Because Nic had a good point :) And he convinced me with what he said.
Says guy who posted Responsive Ass ;)
I think the problem has more to do with the algorithm that powers DN. Take your post for instance, it has two upvotes in 28 minutes and showed up in the third position. It should be more difficult than that to be the third link. Any spammy news site can conjure up two upvotes.
HN and Reddit get spammy bullshit posts all day long, but they don't see the first page. Maybe it's a volume issue as well, but I think the math plays a big role.
I kind of disagree with you, I like the algorithm in here because everyone gets a chance to be in the first page.
Well I kind of disagree with you. If "everyone" includes every link submitted, DN becomes a firehose, not a community-curated list. I'm not saying it needs to be impossible to get on the first page, but making it a little more difficult might keep the spammy stuff out.
Maybe a good solution would be having a vote down option, this way the community could push stuff down if they don't like it...
but ummm no, I still think everyone should get a fair chance, and if she/he didn't get any votes then the post goes far far far away haha
I don't think down voting is a good option for this community.
People will tend to down vote items they disagree with rather than down vote posts that don't prompt discussion or are spam.
Perhaps, a better option would allow users to flag a post that might not be right for the community. If a post receives a certain number of flags, it send a moderator a notification. It would then be up to the moderator to decide if the post was appropriate.
Ah true! Actually that's a cool idea! We're missing a report feature in here!
The solution is to have a "controversial" page. That would promote posts that people disagree with, as opposed to those that should be flagged for being inappropriate.
BTW - As long as I know, there are users (with Karma that is above specific count, I think around 1000) that has an ability to downvote.
Oh that's awesome!
Bingo. Anyone can frontpage at will. Needing 2 votes ain't much of a hurdle.
I think its the curse + boon of Designer News success --- the larger and more successful the community as a galvanising point for designers globally, the more attractive it is for business-folks trying to reach designers as potential customers or traffic.
While I can understand the OP's concern - I have to agree that if the community is functioning well, articles of merit will be surfaced by up-voting and comments. Articles lacking merit will be squished into the wasteland of the Not-Front-Page.
I actually think DN is doing extraordinarily well in terms of its size & traffic versus commercial-infiltration. While there is an element of the market bazaar "Go to my site! Click my link for Nth Prototyping Tool!" - its the community participation and discussion that is highlighting the valuable or interesting links.
My first at work LOL with Designer News. Well played. Well played indeed.
Yep, I noticed it too. Very annoying.
Honestly, I don't know all of the articles I would want to go read or where to find them which is part of why I come to DN everyday. If tech blogs want to submit articles, as long as they are design related, its cool. If you don't like it, don't vote it up?
Just use http://thenews.im
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