Why not just leave? Seems more like attention seeking to me.
i think you answered your own question there.
For the sake of argument... I'll play the devil's advocate here. I left Dribbble for nearly a year, and since "returning" so to speak my postings have been slim. It's often one of the things that come up with clients or during interviews... Being asked why I'm not active on one of the most prominent designer networks out there. They see such amazing work being posted and all the positive feedback as a great thing, without often realizing many of us joined Dribbble to grow our skills and learn from the constructive criticism often found there at the time.
As Dribbble has aged and it's user base has grown, it's experienced the same bloat all networks do. The initial user base that was nothing but the most interested designers has grown to include the lurkers only seeking inspiration, and even clients/employers themselves. It's not a bad thing the network has grown, just something many people don't understand or particularly enjoy.
That all being said... It's all about who you follow and interact with on there. Twitter and Facebook can easily be social networks that are more annoying than useful if you follow awful people. I've found that interacting with and following the right people on Dribbble can drastically change it's usefulness. The small network we used to enjoy years ago is gone, but that doesn't mean there should be a mass exodus.
It's often one of the things that come up with clients or during interviews... Being asked why I'm not active on one of the most prominent designer networks out there.
Wow. Are you actually asked in interviews why you don't use Dribbble? I've never heard of something like that...
Yep. It's usually subtly in passing, as most of my clients up until recently found me through Dribbble. It would always be something along the lines of "Is Dribbble the best place to find your work? Your website seems more up to date oddly..." Not as blunt, but the meaning is certainly there. It's become the norm for most recruiters/clients to find people's work on Dribbble it seems.
It's sad to see how Dribbble has gone downhill over the past couple years. These days people are only focusing on posting their best work, and trying to get other designers to see it.
It's become little more than show and tell for designers…
Wasn't it meant as a way to show your work in progress when it first came up?
Even if you still manage to get decent feedback for your shots, it makes less sense to post finished, polished pieces than WIP that you can still iterate on.
I guess it's pretty much a design portfolio network now, so even though OP is right, he just doesn't belong there anymore. Things change.
How'd you get downvoted? You had a -1 point. Do you have to unlock the ability to downvote and I'm just not cool enough yet?
Admins can downvote
Proof that the admins are kind of dicks.
I feel like this complaint would carry more weight if Jakub had posted more work that invited critique. He only posted a few times in the past year, never attached a full size image that could be adequately critiqued, and most importantly: he never asked for critique.
Dribbble seemed to have more people offering feedback in the past, but it often seemed pedantic. Because the format lends itself to small snapshots the critiques would often be about sub-pixel nuances, not questions of objectives or user needs, or anything beyond the superficial.
And that's fine, I like dribbble for what it is and what it's not.
With the ability to attach full size images it does seem like it's becoming more suited for proper critique but I don't really use it for that. I find co-workers have always been my go-to source for constructive criticism.
But I see this complaint about dribbble all the time, so what sites and communities would you all recommend for someone wanting to have their work critiqued?
"Dribbble seemed to have more people offering feedback in the past, but it often seemed pedantic. Because the format lends itself to small snapshots the critiques would often be about sub-pixel nuances, not questions of objectives or user needs, or anything beyond the superficial."
You're absolutely right
http://hunie.co/ this site is for critics only with lots of good talent like dribbble
Agreed. I think one of the biggest problems is that people are complaining about one thing or another but not working personally to make the change they claim to want.
If you want critique on your work, ask for it! If you want to show WIP work, do it. Dribbble wasn't built to become what it currently is, it's a tool created for designers to use and choose how they want to use it. We have collectively made it what it is.
Clicks his dribbble profile. Aaahhhh. That's why.
It's like wondering why your selfies on Instagram don't get more constructive feedback.
Unhappy with people just wanting attention... So posts a dribbble shot, just to get attention.
Sacha hit the nail on the head, dribbble have never said it's a place for feedback, it is a place for showing off, always has been - and I love it for that.
If you want feedback, either ask for it directly, or go to somewhere that is actually looking to solve that problem.
This dude cares a TON about UX, but is (in my opinion) pretty awful with aesthetics.
In little 400x300 windows, Dribbble is clearly made primarily for the aesthetic part of design. It just didn't work out for him, so he's finding a new way to get some attention there.
Probably the fairest comment in here - Jakub's background and focus is on UX.
BTW I'm subscribed to GoodUI. Some good reports in there.
Hugely attention seeking. Also it's not as if this is a new thing.
Get some friends dude and enjoy your life. We don't care btw
christ are we back on this again
Maybe because he still looks he's designing in a web 2.0 age?
Hyper-positive feedback? This dude's submissions barely have any comments/likes. If it's a criticism towards Dribbble as a whole, then it's been said a thousand times before - yes, Dribbble is superficial, get over it.
I feel http://commments.com/ is a better way to rase awareness for the lack of feedback on dribbble.
Personal I don't care there is lack of feedback. I like to use if only to get appreciation from peers. Sometimes clients just don't get what your trying to achieve. I use dribbble to vent some creative steam!
Well, his most viewed, liked and commented post ever
If you want feedback on something, ask for it and put the shot into some sort of context where people can comment. He doesn't do that as far as I can see.
He's right though.
Jakub's last shot got most likes of all.
Dribbble was created to share small bits of your design work - frustrated by not being able to share work or see what friend's were working on Dan Cederholm created this app.
If you want design feedback go back to art or design school - the Dribbble community does not exists to give feedback on your design work. Its just a bunch of designers (including myself) throwing up small bits of work b/c we want to share something.
I'll gladly give anyone design feedback on their work but I'll be charging a fee for such a service, and if you are an experienced designer - so should you.
Why should I (anyone) care? Everyone's aware that Dribbble isn't a place to seek any kind of feedback, let alone constructive. Especially when you're a hardcore UX designer. Anyway..
...he's seriously suggesting a "dislike button"?
If you want to get your designs mercilessly ripped apart, the folks over at designerstalk.com will be happy to have you.
That's why I never bothered to get an account in the first place.
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I don't get it. The explicit purpose of dribbble is "show & tell for designers". It's just snapshots that people share of projects they're working on. Who said anything about criticism, positive or negative?
Put it in a well deserved bucket. https://dribbble.com/knifeandfox/buckets/264848-Dumb-F-cking-posts
I never used dribbbbbbbbbble. Totally not missing out. :)
Most design/development communities are super positive, otherwise you'll get downvoted...
Well that escalated quickly...
It seems like every few months some version of this complaint is briefly brought to the front of the design community. I know that I also fall into the cycle of posting to Dribble for a quick afternoon ego boost, rather than posting honest WIP in hopes of making them better.
While I agree with the sentiment behind this post, I think the better action is to promote positive change and put into Dribbble what you want to see come out of it.
Should we care? http://goodui.org seems like an awful place
Same thing happened to Flickr back in the days. Constructive feedback is usually better in smaller forums
Another Dibbble debate... It's so apparent to me that if it's so popular, it's doomed to be hated by haters for what it is not. C'mon..
This is like quitting Facebook and telling all your friends. He'll be back in a fortnight.