This doesn't really sound like a problem to me.
I think having an outdated design can be a problem and a reason to redesign (specially if you are redesigning it just for fun and practice)
How do you detect an outdated design?
Well, just to be clear I'm not trying to come down on you, especially because it's just for fun. Reddit has plenty of design problems that need to be solved, but I don't think you identified one. I think if you take a look at Reddit as currently comprised and took a hard look at what the pain points of the user are you could probably come up with a more effective redesign. Otherwise all we've done is decided "Reddit doesn't look so hot and Google Material does." Which is fine, but it's sort of like setting up the pieces to play chess and then starting to play checkers.
No hurt feelings. I somewhat agree with you. I did this purely as practice on material guidelines, and applying them on an existing product (if you see my dribbble, you'll see I did it before a week ago).
So, yeah, maybe I should've stated it like "Reddit doesn't look so hot and Google Material does."
This was not meant to be a deep study on how Reddit works, weaknesses or whatever. I think it's kind of a futile exercise to do that, without knowing how the users really react to it. I can't possibly have that information, unless they approach me to do it.
I'm not an active user on Reddit - just read posts and it's totally usable and functional for me (excluding its aesthetics)
What are reddit's top design problems for you?
I'm not a super user, but the troubles I always have are:
• Its difficult to quickly scan and see what a post is about. • I always have trouble finding sub-reddits that I didn't just happen to stumble upon. • Same problem I have with here, but I don't love that model of sometimes you click on a post and it takes you to a thread on Reddit and sometimes it links out and the only indication is in the secondary text next to the headline.
While Material Design is a nice starting point for mobile apps, I think it makes a poor interface for the web.
Material design employs a lot of animation and and movement to distinguish itself, I just a see a flat version of Reddit with a side menu that covers up content unecesarily. The icons for actions are nice looking, however far less clear than the words themselves. Hamburger menu? Ugh.
Why not do an Agustín Ruiz Reddit redesign concept instead of a Google Reddit redesign concept? Isn't the whole point of an unsolicited redesign to show off your own design skills? You've just shown us an existing product through an existing lens. I have learned nothing about your design sensibilities from this project, and I can't imagine you have either (except maybe they don't jibe with jerks like me).
Sorry to be a dick, but this kind of exercise is just layered tracing and doesn't seem particularly valuable, unless your only goal is an internship at Google.
I say "internship" not as a dig at your skill level, but rather as a guess that Google's design team is more interested in portfolios that showcase unique, original work and critical thinking than it is the ability to read and regurgitate someone else's work in a new setting.
There are good lessons to learn from any design documentation as thorough as Material, and it's awesome that people are recognizing that, but there's a big difference between informing your own style with practices others have found useful and simply aping a framework.
I have to say I agree with you.
On my defense (I feel like I'm defending myself a lot here :P), this was a "just for fun" concept. I love Android, and as a good practice of the guidelines, thought that applying them on an existing product could be a fun project to do on spare time.
Could I have imprinted more of "me" in the project? Sure. That was not my goal. Maybe that should've been stated somewhere.
No hurt feelings here, I always appreciate constructive criticism.
For what it's worth, /r/Android is already kinda-sorta doing this.
Yeah, /r/materialdesign is similar too
Man, this is fun. I love these ridiculous redesigns.
Please make this a Chrome extension that modifies the CSS of Reddit so I can use this :)
I'd love to, but I have no idea on how to make a Chrome extension! :(
Hah, I just started making one of these for Reddit the other day, after getting sort of annoyed at their blog post about how they "improved the reading experience".
It's not ready yet, but if I get it into a reasonable state I'll share it.
I figure it's more valuable to build these unsolicited redesigns as working styesheets/scripts - that you can actually install and use - rather than just proposing a redesign for the sake of dribbble likes or whatever.
I'm curious as to why you chose to place the FAB at the bottom of the screen. It feels like placing the button at the bottom of the screen hides it from users and would make submitting content much harder.
I question the use of the FAB at all, but if you wanted to keep it wouldn't it be better suited along the extended
actionapp bar instead?
That's a good point. I guess I didn't want to make it so prominent.
At least for me personally, creating content is not as usual as consuming it. So I thought putting the FAB there would be intuitive enough for the users that create content.
Now I'm reconsidering my decision. Putting it in the app bar could be really confusing, specially in background-heavy subreddits. But your observation definitely makes sense.
I get that for most users the consumption of content is more important than creation, but the site relies heavily on that creation to give the 90% things to consume.
Did you look at options that didn't leverage the FAB at all? I'd wonder if you could drive a higher content creation rate if you make the submit link/story buttons more prominent. What if it was like the facebook input box that lives at the top of all the other content?
Or is having a few clicks before being able to submit content a good thing? Does that small bit of friction help keep a ton of spam and nonsense from being posted?
Finally - Are there other changes you could make to push this to leverage more of the material guidelines? It looks nice, and there are some layers of content, but what interaction modes could you change to make it feel like more than a reskinning and some buttons moved around? When I click on a story, does it just take me to the comment page like it does today, or do the comment expand out to cover the page (sort of like the contact information cards in Android)?
I'm just spitballing, but these are the initial thoughts I had.
Those are some good thoughts and ideas. I'll absolutely think about that and push the boundaries a bit more.
Material redesign concept for Reddit. View the full project at https://www.behance.net/gallery/23383675/Reddit-material-redesign-concept
This concept took a long time, so please check it out at Behance for details :)