- No one should care if Tim is gay or not. I personally feel like it is none of my business.
- It’s brilliant he’s speaking up about it, and doing so may help others.
Exactly my thoughts too. It's a little sad that this still has to be news, but I think it's a tiny step in the right direction.
Marc, I completely agree. Despite how much attention this is getting, it shouldn't be "news". To me, it's just as relevant as "Tim Cook likes ice cream".
But the important part, like you said, considering how some people act towards homosexuality, I hope that in some form or another it helps others.
I feel you, and your second point makes me think you agree with this, but a little note on your first point: We should care. That the CEO of one of the most important companies in the world is openly gay is an exciting sign of (slowly) changing times. That millions of people all over the world—even in countries like Russia, where homophobia still reigns unchecked— use products that are made under his supervision without knowing or caring about his sexual orientation is as worthy of our acknowledgement as the fact that America's 44th president is black.
Hopefully one day these kinds of things truly won't matter, but for now, they do matter, because they're fucking awesome.
Totally agree with you!
Exactly, we should definitely care. These constant 'ideal scenario world' arguments do my head in.
In an ideal world we shouldn't have to care about whether he's gay or not, but that's not reality. Reality is that homosexuals are discriminated against, even sentenced to death in some countries. That's why we should care if the CEO of one of the most important companies in the world is gay.
When you consider where he is from (Alabama) is a place where people do still care, and care deeply, I for one give Tim a standing O.
The south is still way too slow to come to grips with tolerance, among so many other things. I know, because most of my family lives in the sticks and many of them are the epitome of the "white southern hick" stereotype. They do exist, ya'll.
Let's also not forget that one of Apple's largest trading partners, China, didn't even remove homosexuality from their official list of mental illnesses until as late as 2001, a mere 13 years ago.
Tim's bold essay should help place the bricks of tolerance, however small, in every direction worldwide. Bravo Tim. Bravo.
I feel the same, I like to think that my "not caring" attitude is what we should do. I actually care, and love seeing more and more important and powerful gay people, because it's tearing apart the homophobia. I felt the same way when Obama was elected, because it shows how evolved we are getting as a society. The problem is, you and I don't really care about a gay CEO or a black president, why should we, but the real problem is that there are still people out there that don't like or respect this, and still see races and gender and sexual orientation. I believe that it's due to the generation gap in the open-ness, and hopefully 2 generations will be enough to clear the most of the hatred and bigotry. Love everyone, respect everyone #makepeacenotwar
my thoughts exactly.
I’m proud to be gay, and I consider being gay among the greatest gifts God has given me.
Between Tim Cook and Pope Francis, God's got a lot to think about this week.
To all the people saying this shouldn't be news: you're right. It shouldn't. Nevertheless, now, in 2014, it matters. It's worth reporting. As a gay designer and developer, I can personally vouch that if I had seen Tim's announcement during my very confusing teenage years, it would have made a difference. No doubt. Seeing that someone who is in charge of one of the most influential companies in the world can be gay, too—well, that's pretty damn powerful. I am positive his message will reach some needy ears. For that fact alone: kudos Tim, for taking a stand. You are making the world a better place.
How is this designer news?
(edit: this is an honest question, not a troll)
I think this is an important story from our industry. I don't see how this shouldn't belong here.
So yeah, it's only the largest company in the world which has innovated technology with a focus on design over the last 25 years. So honest answer, a lot of Apple news is important.
Also, there is no news.minorityvault.com to post news about this.
You win for this comment.
Apple's success largely rests on its commitment to design, and understanding its values sets an example for others to follow. I've enjoyed the loose definition of what fits into Designer News, so for me this fits.
This is incredibly inspiring and relevant. There is the perception that the technology industry is known for bigotry and prejudice.
That being said this thread will be heavily moderated, please be mindful of what you say.
That being said this thread will be heavily moderated
Beyond bigotry an prejudice? Why?
Sorry if I wasn't clear, it will be heavily moderated for bigotry and prejudice.
I'd ask that you don't moderate it.
You shouldn't censor people's opinions and personal views, even if you don't agree with them.
It also gives everyone a chance to clearly see who the bigoted asshats are.
Yeah, it seems like moderation of this kind of thing is it's own form bigotry.
What? Setting a standard for community behavior isn't "censorship" or "bigotry". Your rights are not being violated in any way when hateful or off-topic comments are moderated.
This seems like the right answer at first (Free Speech!), but communities can be poisoned by negative vitriol. Jeff Atwood of Stack Exchange and Discourse has written about this a few times, and his points are excellent.
Every single one of these articles should be required reading for how communities should defend their principles. It helps that they are relatively brief and excellently written.
“If hearing that the CEO of Apple is gay can help someone struggling to come to terms with who he or she is, or bring comfort to anyone who feels alone, or inspire people to insist on their equality, then it’s worth the trade-off with my own privacy.”
Ain't that something? Opening the door for other folks. Go Tim.
This is not just news for america, it is also new for people all around the world, people in lesser developed countries where society doesn't understand homosexuality and treats them as if they have some kind of a disease. For example just today in india there was an article where a man was arrested under section 377 of the indian penal code, which can puts people behind bars for having what they term as "un-natural sex". I believe Tim Cook has done a great thing by coming out, it sends a message for every gay person around the world that its absolutely normal to be gay and you can chase your dreams and be yourself regardless of what society may say.
He's such an awesome guy
"I’m doing my part, however small, to help others."
... says the CEO of the world's most valuable company.
I'm glad he stands up and speak about it. If more CEOs/celebs/politicians do this way then homosexual people will get less hates, that's my opinion. That's why I think he did the right thing. Same as Emma Watson's UN speech.
It's not like it's a big surprise, but still mad respect to Tim Cook.
My thoughts exactly. This wasn't exactly a secret, hadn't the media covered this before?
Still, great thing he's doing.
Good on you, Tim!
I don't care. Not my business.
Can't believe people still care about this...