Hey, Designers…We're listening to you.
That's awesome. I was somewhat distracted by how bad the font choices were for the site (wtf PS team? seriously?)
Ha! I was also distracted by the weird use of Brandon (especially on the hero slash image, it just rubs the wrong way) and the Ambroise is a wonky choice for sure. I guess, cool for them using an Adobe font product?
But, I agree its cool to see Adobe at trying to care.
I admit I was intrigued by the typeface choice at first, but cringed when I saw the seemingly random use of justified, centred and left aligned paragraphs all over the page.
Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this straight away. Found it rather hard to read the entire way through, especially on the red background
Too late, sketch has my heart, you're going to have to seduce me back again adobe. I still have not forgot what you did to Flash...
Wait, is this an official Adobe thing? Or just some random people who want to somehow make Photoshop better?
I want to say it's an official thing, but the lack of any Adobe-related logos or credentials is confusing…
yes. its official. an effort by a small core of PS designers, researchers, and management to do something different, and build a better design tool out of PS. good things coming!
Is this official? I have no idea what this page is doing.
Wait—this was done at/by Adobe? Weird.
Adobe likes Unsplash :)
To me, it's not a matter of adjusting Photoshop; it's a matter of rethinking it entirely, skimming the best features and tossing the technical and UI cruft. I'd imagine I'm the minority in the design community, but it's critically weighed down by its past.
This somehow feels… desperate :)
Seriously, since Sketch  I struggle to see a future for PS as an UI Design Tool, PS should focus on pixel-based graphics editing (sure, with some vector/shape layer stuff) and Sketch should stay focussed on UI-relevant stuff (which it already does really well) and maybe better possibilities to link/update external graphics ( like linked smart objects @PS). I also prefer Illustrator for complex vectors over sketch, it's just way more robust/mature and evolving too — But that's just a side note.
Before twisting and turning PS any further > How about a new Adobe product specific for UI Design? The biggest strength of Adobe Products is their ability to work together pretty well, so if there would be an application for UI design I could throw my .ai / .psd assets in and update dynamically I'd be pretty happy (edited photos, illustrations, icons, etc.). Oh, and built-in 'conventional' ui-animations would be great too, it's kind of overkill to load everything into AE for such rather simple things :)
Edit: Realized only now that folks have mentioned a new Adobe design tool or built in animation already, so sorry for double content
I don't know, I feel drawing pictures of a moving object is so constrained. I have a bit more of a filmy background, you story board a film which seems to be like wire framing your app. Then you go out and make your film, adjust shots when you need to on the fly. The storyboard may have SOME lighting information, but it mostly just has blocking and framing. Wireframes do that well. Why then do we need to spend so much time creating assets that are in the wrong format for a finished project, and then have all of this technical overhead to make it work in our app (aka using rastorized images in apps instead of figuring out what the devices actually can render for us dynamically).
shrug cool that adobe is trying, but I feel they really just need to go back to basics on this one and build a new tool without all of the overhead and cruft. It isn't like starting over is so brutal for their CC business model. They are not losing photoshop customers, they are keeping CC customers and maybe adding new ones. I am not in their board meetings and i don't know their needs or motivations, but thats my outside perspective.
All wise words. I can only say there are different initiatives at Adobe right now. Look for short- and long-term responses to UI design workflows.
I'm suddenly a lot more excited to watch the CC event on June 18.
Ah, competition; when it happens, we all win.
Or they could just bring Fireworks back..
@arian and co. - animations are a real opportunity and a better tool is needed as an interface designer these days. Is that need being addressed at all?
short answer - yes. :) but to temper expectations, look for something like this in the longer term.
Great to hear. Now that I use Sketch almost exclusively for app and web UI design, that's just about the only thing that would make me reconsider the Adobe Suite again.
So improved smart objects, better asset generator and improved vectors are the highlights.
While I'm not sure if this was announced in the even that was being discussed in this respective thread:
That's what I predicted and commented (aside: we can't direct link comments on DN?). it's not like this is something that's hard to foresee. Now I just wonder if Adobe can launch and work quick and fast enough to stop Sketch
The fact of the matter is that photoshop was not initially designed for screen design. It's a damn good tool for photo manipulation and compositing. It's nice that they're trying to work with it, but it simply wasn't built for screen design. Sketch has been built from the ground up for screen design. I'll use photoshop for photo manip and Sketch for UI designs.
I'm very exited about this! It's nice that Adobe are listening.
Good job with that button http://cl.ly/image/1c2T1t1N3T1x
It could be legit since I Googled a couple of those folks' LinkedIn profile and indeed they are Adobe employee.
Not sure about this "conversation" business though. If they are still trying to "validate" the assumption I think they can skip right through it.
What we wan to see is results.
Soon, as in SOON, you'll see an offering of new design-related features in PS, and some improvements a lot have been hungry for for a while. The momentum for us is just building though, expect serious attention to design workflows for forseeable future.
How about bringing some of that After Effects hover feature into Photoshop?
I would love that one day.
Are you talking about the heads-up menus? If not, can you be more specific? Thanks.
When you hover over a layer in the timelines, tiny brackets show which layer it is.
Don't count this as an official verification, but yes all those people do work at Adobe.
Oh and yes, as Photoshop Product Manager, I can say that it's absolutely legit. :)