I know of a hundred different sites I can hit up if I wanted to talk shit about tech news. I come here for the Designer News. Let's keep this place design oriented and keep the community positive. The posts about firefox, Condoleeza Rice, etc. are very loosely related to the design community and I don't want this place to turn in to just another hacker news shit talking community.
This is designer news not design news. It should be used to discuss and post any news that is relevant for designers. Posts about Firefox or a change to who's involved with the tools we use are definitely relevant.
We have upvoting so that what the community deems important is seen. The talking shit - I think everyone could do without that.
We have upvoting, but not downvoting so that what part of the community deems important shall be seen by all.
I would upvote for a downvote option.
I just want a downvote feature already
You know what bothers me? That 30 voted for this. Do you know how many great design articles don't get passed 2 votes on here? If you want change vote on the good stuff. People dont use the recent page nearly enough.
Design is a reflection of culture and designers should be aware of the context in which they create work. Designers need to be well-versed in the arts, literature, the news, fashion, etc. We're making work for the WORLD we want to live in. Forming an echo chamber of tutorials and talks about flat-design shouldn't be what design is about. As for the shit-talking, I don't see it as a big problem. There's too much congratulatory sycophancy in this industry as it is.
So true! We need to be cultural sponges. Its our job to take in everything and store it. Who knows, it may influence some of our future projects.
Sycophancy is an awesome word.
automatic designer news content generator?
u mad, bro?
you beat me to it and now i am mad ..... bro :D
Look outside the bubble. I happily read those articles once in a while instead of the nth narcissistic one on Medium or one of those the best 10 responsive kittens on Smashing Magazine or Webdesigner Depot.
Asking for a friend -- do you have a link to this "responsive kittens" article? It's for... research.
Being a good designer is being worldly and understanding things outside of mindless vapid debates about Sketch or Photoshop, or how much the community loves the same boring websites.
If you just want design links, subscribe to an RSS feed or something. If you want discussion and community, shut up and stop whining. If you only want to talk to certain people about certain things, you're missing a whole lot about what makes that person interesting or great (not to mention that the "non-design bs" will give you context into them as a designer too).
tl;dr you're missing the point
I think this is pretty selfish.
Nothing's making you read those posts that you aren't interested in, but as a designer I not only am interested in these stories but more importantly I'm interested in what other like minded, interesting people have to say on the subjects.
Ignore posts you don't like. Everyone has different definitions of tech vs design buckets.
great idea for an app, DN yin yang. chose your design vs tech % of ur DN daily dose :)
You should try out http://getprismatic.com/ – it lets you choose what you find interesting, and is personally tailored to you. Designer News is a direct democracy, and if this is what's important to the people, so be it.
or build your own? via telescope ;)
I'm actually a Meteor developer, and I've been working on exactly that. It's still very rough around the edges, but it works.
I realized, though, that I don't really care about getting interesting links. I care about the community. Any ideas on how to foster a community through machine learning?
TBH, I don't really know what's the best way around it. I worked on a movie recommendation app awhile back that uses machine learning to improve results but we just didn't get enough feedback from users. Had to sit down with people outside to get insights. I think it really boils down to the community and getting them engaged, no users = no data.
The law of *N: All news communities will eventually turn into the shit talking cesspool that is HN.
"Design is everything. Everything!"
This is a community fueled site - expect "off topic" to happen. Fighting off-topic discussions will drive a community apart as members look for less strictly regulated places.
Stop worrying and start consuming in smarter ways. Read smart, be picky.
You shouldn't waste your time trying to change the nature of a community.
^ EXACTLY! Couldn't amen more.
I somewhat agree with the OP here.
I have other sources for non-design-related news... such as Condoleezza Rice joining Dropbox's board, etc.
That's designer news, though.
I find this community cool because it's designers discussing things, not because the content is all design related.
I actually think the community will get more and more general as we gradually grow tired of the recurring same-old. That's a good thing, as long as the community's population is mostly designers.
I noticed there is a lot of posts about DEVELOPMENT and CODE on this site too. Can we all just chill with that!? Development is not related to design! This is not HackerNews guys...come on!! (sarcasm)
EDIT: ARGH! I missed the /sarc tag. lol! Good one.
Code can be related to design.
I think designers should learn to code, at leas to be able to develop the front-end of his / her design.
I've seen a lot of great designs turned into monsters by frontend dev that had no ideea why white space, line height, font size are important. As a a full time ux / ui designer I always do my own html / css to be sure that does not happen. I learned how to code a while back and i can say it has a positive mark on all my designs ever since.
I think designers should understand the opportunities and limitations of code to collaborate better with developers. Not necessarily have to learn to program apps themselves unless they really really want to be a unicorn.
For designers to understand the limitations of code they kinda need to learn at least the basic stuff.
And the idea of collaborating better with developers i totally understand it and agree with it in cases where you are close to the development team like a agency job. When you do freelance jobs, most of the cases you don't even know who will build the website / app.
Been working on devne.ws for awhile, shouldn't be to long before they can go there.
The irony of the topic for this thread is hilarious, but I do get what you're saying.
Design is business. Business is design.
Being an invite only site and DN shows who invited a person, and all accounts are exhausted... I say we just complain to the people who invited those people.
That's technically incorrect. There's an hour a day where the registration is open to whoever wants to join.
Dangit I was wrong... Alright, feel free to yell at me :)
uh, I just let myself in
HN posts tangentially related topics all the time; especially breaking news which I appreciate. There isn't that much change in terms of content on this site over even a 2-3 day period so slightly off topic posts are more than welcome.r
I understand your perspective but putting that type of filter on any community (especially one for creatives that thrives on sharing and the our industry) isn't a healthy solution.
We can't just ignore everything that is not design
I am not proposing that you only visit designer news and nothing else.
Yup lets keep it positive.. This is the most spammy post i've seen in a while. As long as we're talking about off topic.
Firefox is actually somewhat relevant to design.. I'm with the other people in that limiting the site to JUST tutorials and dribbble shots and very explicitly designer stuff will be rough.. Just vote on things and let the post ranking do its job. I like how you say "lets keep the community positive" in a post where your title ends with "bullshit".