Sketch 3.0(bohemiancoding.com)

over 9 years ago from David Hoogland, Founder / Designer Moonbase Co.

  • [deleted] , over 9 years ago (edited over 9 years ago )

    I truly appreciate the time and effort put forth by the folks at Bohemian Coding, but this update is a major disappointment.

    The interface design is amateur at best. I expected more from an app that supposedly caters to ‘professional’ designers. It seems more like a working prototype than a finished product…let alone a third version. It feels extremely cheap (explains the low price tag) and still comes littered with basic performance issues. The vector tools are absolutley brutal for any serious bezier manipulation and the text panel still lacks support for opentype, alternates, glyphs, etc. Why add a half-ass bitmap editor when the existing features still need an overhaul?

    The only glimpse of hope is the workflow for exporting and managing assets. It’s quite nice actually, but that won’t matter if the other things are ignored…

    7 points
    • Daniel FoscoDaniel Fosco, over 9 years ago (edited over 9 years ago )

      Perhaps you're expecting too much out of it, or you're not inside the target demographic? Example:

      The vector tools are absolutley brutal for any serious bezier manipulation

      As far as praise goes, Sketch excels as a user interface design tool. If you want an advanced bad-ass vector tool, you should definitely go for Illustrator.

      It feels extremely cheap (explains the low price tag)

      How come? Other than the fact that Adobe software generally comes with a zillion more features than Sketch, I don't see how it feels cheap. Is it the "lack" of features?

      and still comes littered with basic performance issues.

      Yes, 100% agreed. Perhaps my Macbook is getting a little old, but multiple pages/artboards and vectorizing text make Sketch a major pain in the ass for me, with constant crashes. Seriously hope they fixed this in version 3.

      All that said, it's still worth it, if only because of the price tag, but also because it's much more practical, faster and streamlined than Adobe tools -- which feel like using a 18-wheel truck for basic tasks.

      2 points
      • [deleted] , over 9 years ago

        As far as praise goes, Sketch excels as a user interface design tool. If you want an advanced bad-ass vector tool, you should definitely go for Illustrator.

        I completely understand the appeal for interface design, but I’d be willing to bet that many UI designers (especially freelancers) work on other projects including, but not limited to, corporate identity systems, illustration, occasional print work, etc. If Illustrator is still necessary for the best vector drawing experience, why use a separate tool solely for interface design, when you can use one…and benefit from every feature sketch has to offer. I wish this wasn’t the reality, but the current state of sketch hints otherwise.

        How come? Other than the fact that Adobe software generally comes with a zillion more features than Sketch, I don't see how it feels cheap. Is it the "lack" of features?

        I could actually do without the zillion features adobe crams in their software, which is why I’m still partially interested in sketch. The reason it feels cheap has mostly to do with the overall aesthetic and behavior, especially when working with text or complex vector shapes (imagine playing cricket with a balsa wood bat). The interface elements are straight out of Xcode and the icons are childish. It seems more like a toy for the casual designer than an industry standard professional design tool. It’s essentially iWork Pages with a few added features for exporting and managing design elements.

        Just compare Sketch’s interface to the recently released Macaw app. While not perfect, you can certainly see a major difference in design quality. I’m aware these tools serve different needs, but it’s evident the Macaw team considered little details when designing their application.

        Perhaps I’m being too critical and should just be thankful there’s a group of dedicated people willing to create something (at a reasonable fee) for others to use…

        1 point
      • Odrija HeinrihsoneOdrija Heinrihsone, over 9 years ago (edited over 9 years ago )

        Yes, 100% agreed. Perhaps my Macbook is getting a little old, but multiple pages/artboards and vectorizing text make Sketch a major pain in the ass for me, with constant crashes. Seriously hope they fixed this in version 3.

        This. Unfortunately Sketch 3 has the same problems on my MBP so far. It's not the latest or most powerful model but I haven't had any performance issues apart from Sketch. Still hoping they'll come up with something…

        0 points
        • Daniel FoscoDaniel Fosco, over 9 years ago

          Yes!! Just bought Sketch 3 and performance for multi-artboard and multi-page files is 1000x better — no crashing, no slowness, zooming is smoother (still not 100%, but it's great). Vectorizing text is now a bliss.

          0 points
    • Emanuel SaEmanuel Sa, over 9 years ago

      Weirdly said interface not only inspired Apple's on the new iWork 13 inspectors, but also was rewarded for its excellence in design and engineering with an ADA in 2012.

      I guess apple standards are too low ;)

      Thanks for your feedback!

      9 points
      • [deleted] , over 9 years ago (edited over 9 years ago )

        Should I be impressed or concerned? Considering the amount of criticism Apple receives for their software design, I would think the later. Let’s be honest here, Apple is a consumer electronics company…not a software company. Their industrial design is top class, but their software design is tacky and made for the "lifestyle" user. I don’t blame them…that’s obviously how you sell to the masses.

        Regardless of what I think, it’s still an honor to be recognized for your hard work, no less by a company of Apple’s stature . And for that, I sincerely congratulate you and your team and wish you the best of luck moving forward with sketch.

        1 point
    • Jordan BorthJordan Borth, over 9 years ago

      The interface design is amateur at best. I expected more from an app that supposedly caters to ‘professional’ designers.

      I quite like the interface. They decided to stick with a lot of simple, native UI elements as well as Apple-recommended and styled toolbar icons. This makes the app immediately approachable and understandable for anyone used to working in Mac apps. On the surface things may look simple, but there is a lot of functionality and many details tucked away.

      It should also be noted that Sketch won an Apple Design Award for their UI, so, take that as you will :)

      the text panel still lacks support for opentype, alternates, glyphs, etc.

      View › Show Fonts, click gear icon, choose Typography… Advanced Font Features

      1 point
      • [deleted] , over 9 years ago (edited over 9 years ago )

        I'm aware of those options…unfortunately they still lack some advanced features when working with type. Illustrator, inDesign and even Photoshop have full featured settings for working with type…and they should, considering typography is at the forefront of good design.

        See here: http://drp.io/geZp

        1 point