• Matthew Hollingsworth, over 1 year ago

    Hey all!

    Thanks for the feedback. I can assure you it’s not falling on deaf ears. This thread is important, and I wanted to give some context as to why we made the decision to go with downvotes. As you’re all well aware -- we were having some serious spam issues last year (especially Oct/Nov). The solution that we came to (after asking the community for their input) was to implement downvoting so that the best content would be the most visible. Downvoting obviously isn’t set in stone, but it the most requested option at the time, so we went with it. Also, we delayed comments for new users for five days in order to make sure these were people that were actually interested in being a part of the community.

    I’m sorry that some here feel the community is going in the wrong direction, or that we’re doing a poor job. We’re doing the best we can. To be honest, it’s been difficult to find the right balance here, as some of the direct messages to us have been nasty and unproductive. For those who reached out with productive feedback that we missed, I’m sorry. That’s on us. We’ve brought on more moderators to catch lousy content and remove it. Yes, sometimes we miss them, but we’re active here regularly throughout the day, every day. I personally remove around 4-5 stories a day that are flagged.

    That all being said -- let’s talk about ways we can improve. We want to hear them!

    9 points
    • Ken Em, over 1 year ago

      Is content only removed if it is flagged? There is a lot of poor content here that is likely not getting flagged as well. I think what would be more helpful is to add in more proactive moderation, if that's not already happening, instead of just reacting when something is reported.

      Is going back to a more restrictive (invite) membership signup still happening? That would go a long way toward curbing spam and such. Also, an earlier comment regarding the types of content allowed here is spot on. Right now, there is way too much self-promotion and blog spam.

      5 points
      • Matthew Hollingsworth, over 1 year ago

        That's a good point. We do remove content that isn't flagged occasionally, but it's harder to do. We can do better there, especially now that we have more people to help. You should see an improvement there as we go. That being said, we'd love for the community's continued help in flagging things that aren't DN appropriate.

        The invite only system (or something more restrictive) is something we're still considering, but wanted to see what the effect of the delayed comments for new users was first. If the consensus is we should go back to a more restrictive invite system, then we're certainly open to discussing it. There are lot's of things to consider, but it's definitely still on the table.

        0 points
        • Ken Em, over 1 year ago

          I guess my thought on that would be that simply giving new members a waiting period doesn't perform any sort of screening function. If someone is determined to spam or just plug their stuff, they'll wait out the five days. An invite system would be far more selective in regards to who becomes a member and who doesn't.

          -1 points
    • Ken Em, over 1 year ago

      Since we are discussing site features, can you please fix the duplicate URL warning dingus when posting new topics? Several people have reported that it doesn't work, and just now there was a post made which duplicated a post made an hour ago.

      -2 points
    • Philip A, over 1 year ago

      On hacker news you can't downvote until you have a certain amount of karma but you can upvote without karma.

      3 points