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Is it just me, or the dark theme on Mojave really sucks?

almost 5 years ago from Tiago Franco

  • GOOD LUCKGOOD LUCK, almost 5 years ago

    "went back to white mode after less than 5 minutes" - this might be an issue here, give it time ;) Like all new UI, it gets time to get used to.

    There are some "shitty things" like the border, etc. but don't forget this needs to be balanced for everyone and there are lots of constraints (age - young/old, physical state - good/bad eyes, conditions - indoor/outdoor, better/worst screens, accessibility etc.), it's not only for a designer's eyes :) If this would be done like dribble shot, it would fail.

    Looks fantastic for me, especially if every app is in dark mode. I can go into details and complain, but there is no reason to do so. I'm sure the UI will improve in the future. Just give more time, use it and enjoy.

    9 points
    • Tiago FrancoTiago Franco, almost 5 years ago

      "this might be an issue here, give it time ;)"

      Like all new UI, it gets time to get used to." - this is IMHO a mistake. A user doesn't have to get used to the UI if it's well executed.

      If a user needs to "give an interface time" to get used to it, there is a huge problem with that interface.

      -17 points
      • Stuart McCoyStuart McCoy, almost 5 years ago

        I disagree. The change as I see it is more of a getting used to inverted colors on each and every app. There is NOTHING anyone could have done to prepare and massage the UI for that level of change. The biggest problem I run across is that tone of section dividers. The background changes but the color used to divide a sidebar or info column stayed the same gray as before and while it might have looked fine in the light mode, in dark mode it's too bright and sticks out like a sore thumb. It's still a mixed bag with some Apple apps and some third party apps doing this but I'm sure this will get smoothed out over time and app developers will learn to better prepare their code to work with a shifting UI instead of hardcoding every little thing (or they'll hard code it twice; one for light and one for dark).

        2 points
      • Cameron GettyCameron Getty, almost 5 years ago

        I don't think that's true. That may be true for a completely new interface—sure, a well-designed interface should be intuitive from the start. However, after navigating macOS X's interface for more years than I'd like to count, it will obviously take some time to become familiar with a shift in color. The interface isn't completely broken, but an opposite shift in color can be daunting for any interface.

        0 points
      • Dirk HCM van BoxtelDirk HCM van Boxtel, almost 5 years ago

        Wait, so you've never ever encountered a situation where you've improved something someone used a billion times before, and they complained?

        Henry Ford would like to have a word with you.

        Not arguing either way on the original statement, just following up on your comment that you don't believe time-spent has an effect on user acceptance.

        1 point
        • Tiago FrancoTiago Franco, almost 5 years ago

          Dark mode is not an improvement. Themes were an improvement on Windows 95. This is just a poorly executed marketing stunt.

          -4 points
          • Dirk HCM van BoxtelDirk HCM van Boxtel, almost 5 years ago

            Not arguing either way on the original statement, just following up on your comment that you don't believe time-spent has an effect on user acceptance.

            0 points
            • Tiago FrancoTiago Franco, almost 5 years ago

              Ah. Nothing against that. I just think its not a big deal to make it a release flagship. Either way, unfortunately I'm getting used to Apple releasing just a few improvements as part of their product roadmap.

              0 points