Re-designing Sketch(

3 years ago from Ivan Boyko, Founder at Icons8

  • Laurens SpangenbergLaurens Spangenberg, 3 years ago

    The use of brighter colors and semi-non standard UI doesn't seem necessary to me. I believe that the use of standard MacOS UI is actually what helps makes Sketch especially stand out compared to their competitors simply because their competitors are precisely using non-standard UIs.

    In addition this characteristic is what I think makes Sketch also feel more trustworthy.

    Edit: Clarified the last statement

    28 points
    • Jim SilvermanJim Silverman, 3 years ago

      In addition this characteristic is what makes Sketch also feel more trustworthy.

      not the feeling i get. to me, it suggests they didn't put much thought or care into their interface. the toolbar, for example, is literally just a junk drawer filled with the entire app.

      that being said, this redesign is mostly aesthetic and i agree that the result is a bit too surface-level to feel like a necessary improvement.

      5 points
      • Cory MalnarickCory Malnarick, 3 years ago

        but isn't that exactly what the toolbar should be – a fully customizable drawer for your preferred tools?

        4 points
        • Jim SilvermanJim Silverman, 3 years ago

          i don't think so, no. a fully customizable UI generally leads chaos and a longer learning curve.

          Sketch can get away with a this UI because it's competition is much, much worse... and most people just use keyboard shortcuts anyway.

          0 points
    • Diego LafuenteDiego Lafuente, 3 years ago

      I agree. Standard UI is much better than invented UI components.

      2 points
    • Weston VierreggerWeston Vierregger, 3 years ago

      Is there other software you use daily that leverages "native Mac UI"?

      For instance, my currently open apps are: Finder, iMessage, Outlook, Adobe PS, Adobe AI, Spotify, Chrome, Slack, PDF Expert.

      I think the only apps here we can classify as using Mac native UI are Finder and iMessage, for me.

      This point about Sketch using Mac native UI that always gets brought up intrigues me because not only do I rarely, if ever, use large native Mac apps (Numbers, Pages, Keynote) so the UX/UI treatments don't look any more "baseline" than anything else. And, not only that, but the UX/UI for Mac apps actually isn't that great to me either... E.g. spawning an entirely new window on "Save As..." continues to surprise and confuse me.

      So, really what I'm getting at is: why is a native Mac UI more efficient for the user, if the user spends most of their time in apps like Chrome/Firefox, Atom/Sublime, Adobe/Affinity, Slack/HipChat, C4D/Maya, etc. – Mac native UI isn't really a significant benefit at all.

      2 points
      • David ThornDavid Thorn, 3 years ago

        Exactly. I don't get the desire to keep everything mac specific in the UI.

        I fundamentally hate many of the ways things are done natively. The default color picker was a deal breaker and before they switched to something useful, I never converted to Sketch.

        0 points
      • Laurens SpangenbergLaurens Spangenberg, 3 years ago

        I enjoy Sketch's UI the way it is, although that's just my personal preference. I should have clarified the last sentence as that.

        My personal preferences aside however, I don't see how using a custom UI would necessarily make things work better. Obviously better UI patterns and widgets should be used if they work better than their native counterparts which Sketch already does in some places, but I don't agree with the reasoning behind changing the aesthetics/visual components of the UI itself (e.g the window chrome being lighter) as presented in this article.

        0 points