Uber's Atomic Meltdown(elischiff.com)

almost 4 years ago from Carlos M, student

  • Spencer HoltawaySpencer Holtaway, almost 4 years ago

    but they still let it happen

    1 point
    • Jeff CouturierJeff Couturier, over 3 years ago

      I am a bit surprised that the entire Uber design team didn't quit or revolt during this process.

      2 points
      • Laurens SpangenbergLaurens Spangenberg, over 3 years ago

        Their head of design left.

        4 points
      • Dirk HCM van BoxtelDirk HCM van Boxtel, over 3 years ago

        Really? I mean, really? You'd leave a job at [industry leader] because someone higher up didn't listen to you?

        Because if so, good on you. Not all of us have that luxury.

        I swear, every post I've made these last few days has had the same theme: I find the lack of empathy this community shows frightening.

        We all judge and "know how things SHOULD have been done".

        And if we disagree with something, the people responsible for it should be sacked, quit on their own accord or just generally move into a different industry.

        Empathy. Learn it. Practice it.

        12 points
        • P GBP GB, over 3 years ago

          Really? I mean, really? You'd leave a job at [industry leader] because someone higher up didn't listen to you?

          As someone who's had that job at [industry leader] you're talking about (not uber, but a giant US tech company), I left because I didn't like the politics, micromanagement and some elements of the culture.

          When you have the job at [industry leader], you don't sit around thinking 'cool, I work for [industry leader]!' everyday, you asses the work and your enjoyment of it in the same way you would do any job, and if it isn't stacking up you leave, like you would do any job.

          If you're consistently over-awed about the fact you work at such a company and let that cloud your subjectivity when assessing the quality of the work, your enjoyment of the role or the future effect on your career, you're probably doing it wrong.

          3 points
        • Thomas Michael SemmlerThomas Michael Semmler, over 3 years ago (edited over 3 years ago )

          We all judge and "know how things SHOULD have been done".

          I believe that is because we have educated people new to our industry, to blindly follow what celebrity industry insiders have to say. Besides, much of the content that our industry outputs to our own people is not anymore to educate them or to offer them advice, but to monetize their attention. Advertising always works on the deep underlying belief in ourselves that we are in a way inadequate and that the solution that is advertised can fill this gap in ourselves.

          2 points
        • Thomas Michael SemmlerThomas Michael Semmler, over 3 years ago (edited over 3 years ago )

          Really? I mean, really? You'd leave a job at [industry leader] because someone higher up didn't listen to you?

          With that always comes a sense of desired accomplishment for working at [industry leader]. A lot of people inside our industry see their ultimate goal reached when they work at [industry leader]. Maybe, because we tend to idolize a lot of our industry.

          Because if so, good on you. Not all of us have that luxury.

          For me, it's not "luxury" to leave a job. It is my commitment to the values I live by, that makes leaving a job that wastes my energy and time mandatory. Yes, in order to maintain our lives, we need money, but a person who is determined enough to not endure a destructive circumstance in their life that makes them unhappy, is very likely to find a way to sustain themselves and also make them happy. They might have several attempts while trying to find the right one or even finding out what truly motivates them, but once you make decisions based on your values and not on external values, you might realize, that money or even stability are not things that can make you happy.

          I personally criticize our industry, especially designers and productivity-porn stars a lot and often people tell me, that I do that because I envy their status, their success or their popularity. When they do that, they apply their value system on my situation and the same might be happening in your sentence. The person that left their job over the whole situation might have totally different values in their life. You might base all of your life upon all aspects of that job. Your social and financial situation, maybe you see your career ladder leading to a job like that. But this person might see it very differently. I have very different values in my life and in my work as well, which is the reason why I do things differently and I have left my last job because I was unsatisfied, even though it sustained me.

          And btw, without trying to attack you, but understanding that people do not all operate on the same values is also part of empathy.

          3 points