We Need Sketch for the iPad Pro

4 years ago from Daniel Winter, Designer & Developer

  • Surjith S MSurjith S M, 4 years ago

    By making it for OSX, you have covered 10% of designers, cool.. Now bring this to windows and cover the entire awesome designers.

    Please don't think, USA is the only world and Everyone has Mac / iPhone :P

    ~Surjith

    3 points
    • Daniel WinterDaniel Winter, 4 years ago

      any facts that only 10% of the designers use OSX? ;) imho designers are the biggest target group for imacs and macbooks, therefore their userbase is extremly big and thanks to the app store willing to pay quite easily.

      6 points
      • Surjith S MSurjith S M, 4 years ago

        Actually only less than 10% uses a MAC. if you found 5 designers on 10 Mac users, how much will you find in 80 Windows users?

        I don't have a reference for stats, but I can say, If you take all designers in my country (India) there's only 2-5% uses a Mac. This is same for all developing countries.

        You will come to know, when they released the Windows version, they'll got some download stats.

        The world is bigger than you think, dear :)

        4 points
        • Daniel WinterDaniel Winter, 4 years ago

          Of course honey, this may be true for india, but I'm sure that a huge part of Europe and USA designers use macs. In my students class we had 58 macs and 2 windows laptops, for comparison. This makes up for a lot of windows users.

          2 points
          • Surjith S MSurjith S M, 4 years ago

            Yup. Only on USA, UK & Australia. There are 100+ other countries..

            Search for OS Stats on Google. will give you some insights :)

            1 point
            • Daniel WinterDaniel Winter, 4 years ago

              I never doubted that OSX's market share overall ain't big. In fact its about 16% in the USA, 9.5% within Europe and under 1% in India (http://gs.statcounter.com/#desktop-os-IN-monthly-201408-201508). But as you mentioned some of these are developing countries where you might not even be able to charge the full price. And it would only be possible if you would rewrite the app from scratch. OSX provides lots of drawing functions that sketch uses, if they had to redo all the code I'm sure many functions and speed would suffer from a rewrite, especially if they do it in Adobes way for example.

              OSX still is the better OS for designers, I mentioned many apps that are OSX exclusive and have no windows counterpart in another comment. I don't think the market share of OSX outside of Europe and USA is a huge factor for app devs of the western world to be honest, meaning no offense.

              3 points
              • Surjith S MSurjith S M, 4 years ago

                I don't think the market share of OSX outside of Europe and USA is a huge factor for app devs of the western world

                Yes. That's true.. only for western world.. may be...

                I'm not in love with Sketch yet. because I've never tried that.

                While I started an iPhone recently for Testing. Now I'm sure how Mac would be. As a Windows user, I might break it in to two pieces :P (which I'm doing with the iPhone :P )

                The reason is Windows and Mac works in different way. You'll feel the same when you use a WIndows..

                so, What I was asking is for a Windows version of Sketch to try out. I really interested to see whether it works great than Adobe.

                Its time to sleep now... Its almost midnight here.

                Thanks for sharing your views.

                ~Surjith

                2 points
                • Elliott ReganElliott Regan, 4 years ago

                  Check out Corel's suite of design apps for an alternative to Adobe: http://www.coreldraw.com

                  Sketch for anything but OS X just isn't going to happen because it relies on technologies built in to OS X. It would require a complete rewrite of the entire rendering engine, every algorithm behind every tool, the plugin API, and every other bit of the app you can see and can't see, and constant testing to ensure it looks and works the same on every OS. Even massive Adobe has trouble managing that.

                  0 points
            • Ivo MynttinenIvo Mynttinen, 4 years ago

              I can ensure that pretty much every designer in the US, EU, AUS and Japan is on OSX.

              Get over it, you don't run a business by selling high(er) priced software in 3rd world countries where income is low and piracy rates in the 90%'s.

              6 points
            • Nate TharpNate Tharp, 4 years ago

              Sweethearts, found some data: A recent survey of over 4,000 designers from 196 countries found that the Sketch was the most popular interface design tool edging out Photoshop. http://tools.subtraction.com/interface-design.html

              0 points
            • Foo Bar, 4 years ago

              Insights into what? Business advice for tiny Mac software companies?

              Bohemian is a developer-heavy studio, so a Windows version realistically means doubling (or more) the size of their company, and targeting a platform they have little experience with. The only business reason to do this is if they have an expectation of future earnings is greater than the cost of doing so.

              I've been watching OS stats, and for small Mac software companies, the economics are just not there. Mac users tend to pay more for software, so per-user lifetime revenue is higher. Mac users tend to upgrade their OS a lot more quickly, so there are fewer OS versions to target and maintain.

              You're asking them to write software because you want it, not because it makes any sense for them to write it. You'd have a better chance of finding some Windows software shop to write a clone of it, because at least then they'd have the relevant experience.

              0 points
        • Rifat Nabi, 4 years ago

          Fun fact is among those 98% Windows users probably only 2~5% uses a genuine Windows or Adobe Photoshop. So, even if Sketch releases a Windows version, 98% of those 98% will wait for a crack.

          1 point
        • Foo Bar, 4 years ago

          And just how many of the designers in India and other developing countries would pay $100 for a copy of Sketch?

          The same reason they're not buying Macs is the same reason they wouldn't buy Sketch.

          0 points
        • Mark Petereit, 4 years ago

          India is full of very talented developers. If there is such a high demand for Sketch on Windows in India, I'm surprised none of them has already developed an even better alternative for Windows users.

          Or perhaps demand for such an application on Windows isn't as high as you might think?

          0 points
    • Emanuel SaEmanuel Sa, 4 years ago

      A windows version never was and hardly will be in our plans, sorry.

      12 points
      • Aleksi TappuraAleksi Tappura, 4 years ago

        I understand why you decided to not make a Windows version, but it's the reason why Sketch will never be the industry standard.

        3 points
        • Daniel WinterDaniel Winter, 4 years ago

          maybe they don't want it to be standard. being a standard means having responsibility. And the underdog factor is pretty important as well.

          2 points
        • Rasmus ErikssonRasmus Eriksson, 4 years ago

          I'm pretty happy where I am with Sketch. My clients are happy. My developer self is happy.

          0 points
      • Dorin FrunzeteDorin Frunzete, 4 years ago

        but a good exporter to PSD, Ai files? a convertor? or maybe a extension to import Sketch files to Illustrator/Photoshop

        Don't tell me about "save like a PDF and after that you can open in Illustrator" - this operation is a total mess

        0 points
    • Rob HaverlyRob Haverly, 4 years ago

      What? Is this a serious response? I agree that Sketch Mirror needs to released on Android. I also agree that Sketch needs to release a Windows version. But 90% of the UI/IxD industry being on PC/Linux is most certainly false.

      3 points
      • Daniel WinterDaniel Winter, 4 years ago

        Well the Android version shouldn't be much of a problem imho as sketch mirror would just have to send a png to the phone and display it 1:1. Or maybe even SVG. Therefore I agree that an android version might be good. But then again, what stops you from previewing your android design on an iphone? You have to calculate with 1000+ Resolutions anyways :)

        0 points