We Still Let Harassers Participate In Our Community(kovalc.in)

5 years ago from Matthew R. Miller, Product Designer

  • Ix TechauIx Techau, 5 years ago

    And what if the named person sues her for libel and wins the case? Naming people is not the correct way to solve these things. If he has sexually harassed her, she needs to report it to the police and let the justice system handle it. If he's found guilty, then we can name and shame.

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    • Ethan BondEthan Bond, 5 years ago (edited 5 years ago )

      Libel is an incredibly difficult case to make in the U.S. And in the U.S. you're almost always named prior to any finding of guilt (even before any type of arraignment). People always have their reputations dragged through the mud only to have charges dropped a few months down the road. Not saying this is right, but we certainly shouldn't be making exceptions for these people that we don't afford to anyone else.

      More importantly, something doesn't have to be illegal for it to be wrong. Maybe this type of behavior should be addressed by the community (in forms such as naming names) so it never reaches a level that we actually have to say "well wait for them to go to prison first, then you can feel comfortable in your workplace!"

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      • Ix TechauIx Techau, 5 years ago

        Not really about prison, more about letting the justice system handling these matters.

        Based on my own experience with men in the tech business, the OP article sounds fully plausible...but we still don't actually know what happened for sure. We've only heard one side of the story. She says she has text messages, and again that sounds perfectly normal based on my own experience. But I haven't seen these messages, and I don't know what actually happened. So I'm not interested in knowing the name of this person she claims has sexually harassed her.

        If, however, a court granted her a protective order and/or fined him based on evidence provided, then I'm all for naming the person and excluding him from any conventions in the future.

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        • Ethan BondEthan Bond, 5 years ago

          I think you're overly optimistic about justice systems! I don't think public naming is an elegant solution, but I would place my faith literally almost anywhere before I give it back to the judiciary.

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