Discussion: Is The Grid (www.thegrid.io) vaporware?

over 4 years ago from Johannes Ippen, Human Deluxe Design Studio

  • Jon GoldJon Gold, over 4 years ago (edited over 4 years ago )

    hey DN!

    I starting working at The Grid a few months ago so might not have all the answers you want, but it's absolutely not vaporware (if it is vaporware I guess I've been hallucinating all the code I've seen). There are ~15-20 of the best designer-engineers I've ever worked on on the team; it's just a bit of a bigger feat of engineering than a social photosharing app for cats etc ;)

    lmk anything specific you're interested in and either I'll answer or pull in someone who can help; as a starting point I'd say that:

    • I'm 150% confident that it's going to be incredible and worth the wait; just hold in there. I wouldn't be working on it if I didn't think it would be incredible.

    • it's such a logical evolution; feels like the next step from what Gerstner & Müller-Brockmann etc were working on. I'm really into design systems; it's really compelling to do it at scale and having to cede control to algorithms. You just have to make the algorithms good.

    • it's really smart — our layout, color, typography systems etc are all getting good. right now I'm teaching the typography AI how to pick fonts with the same nuance as a designer. It's fun. Brings you back to design school roots, makes you really scratch away at your process and everything you know as a designer.

    We've been recording some video hangouts & screenshares & stuff recently - https://www.youtube.com/user/TheGridio

    We're definitely trying to be more open about what we're working on - just hard to balance talking with sitting down and hacking. If you want a design 'point of contact' feel free to tweet me @jongold or our Creative Director @lat. We're all humans here :P

    I'll see if we can do an AMA sometime to share some more stuff :)

    28 points
    • Johannes Ippen, over 4 years ago

      Hey Jon,

      thank you very much for your prompt answer! I still think your approach sounds really cool, however it's a product that I paid money for and was promised months ago. I hope you understand that the "happy 100 customers" policy might work for free products, but in your case generates 54,000 unhappy customers who have paid you.

      As a customer I would at least expect you to communicate release dates or milestones more transparently, if you're unable to deliver the product as promised – OR – as usual in these cases, grant a refund.

      30 points
    • Murat MutluMurat Mutlu, over 4 years ago

      Cool to hear you joined! Looking forward to this

      2 points
    • BAKA .kidBAKA .kid, over 4 years ago (edited over 4 years ago )

      I heard you speak on the Design Details podcast only recently Jon, and hearing snippets about what you had been working on put my mind at ease. More communication through emails would be great for the people who have backed the project.

      Not being a coder at all, i can imagine these things take time, but i am really looking forward to the end result.

      this is the episode i am referring to if you want to listen - http://spec.fm/show/design-details/14150

      i just want to add - i am backer 3366, from october last year.

      1 point
    • Daniel ZanderDaniel Zander, over 4 years ago

      Hi Jon,

      Do you have any idea how the "commerce engine" will work? Will I be able to choose the payment provider (Paypal, Stripe etc etc)? When will it be be ready to use and will I be able to use it in the EU?

      Thank you!

      /Daniel

      0 points
      • Jon GoldJon Gold, over 4 years ago

        Just saw this :)

        thegrid.io is powered by our payment engine. It currently supports Stripe & Bitcoin, I'm sure we'll work in PayPal & others for when it's public. Not sure on the timeline for that though.

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    • Ben BonneyBen Bonney, over 4 years ago

      as many designer have now tried it, what about doing this AMA uh ? So far, I just tried one of the worst UI ever. Oh yeah it looks bright in videos… Feels worst then vaporware

      0 points
    • BAKA .kidBAKA .kid, 1 month ago

      Turns out... it was. https://www.vice.com/en_asia/article/3a854w/how-a-web-design-company-crowdfunded-millions-and-completely-disappeared

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