A challenge to all DN users

over 5 years ago from Shane Boland, front-end design/shopify optimization

  • Diana Lopez, over 5 years ago (edited over 5 years ago )

    Yes. I like this challenge, thank you. I don't understand why the other comments in this topic are arguing for keeping the status quo. Ok? Do y'all think inviting more women is bad for DN somehow? I can see why a woman wouldn't want to join DN based on these comments.

    17 points
    • Paul DessertPaul Dessert, over 5 years ago

      I don't think anyone is arguing against it. I think (myself included) people are fed up the with the idea that the lack of a penis is a disadvantage.

      Please, invite others to DN. Don't do it JUST because they are female. Seriously, women doesn't this offend you? (Honest question)

      6 points
      • Diana Lopez, over 5 years ago

        No, why would it offend me? I have felt that tiny "ok everyone here is a man... maybe I don't belong here" feeling often in my career and having more women around would help with that. I'm not saying DON'T invite men, I'm saying include women TOO.

        37 points
        • Joel CalifaJoel Califa, over 5 years ago


          2 points
        • John LeschinskiJohn Leschinski, over 5 years ago

          Are you suggesting no one is including women? That the community is excluding them?

          1 point
          • Anna NiessAnna Niess, over 5 years ago

            There is overwhelming evidence in this post that suggests the DN community does not make an effort to be inclusive of the female perspective, or see gender equality as a priority. Prove me wrong.

            3 points
            • John LeschinskiJohn Leschinski, over 5 years ago

              The community seems to be saying they want to be inclusive to designers, which includes many subsets of people including women, but that focusing on one group isn't equality.

              0 points
      • Sarah LiSarah Li, over 5 years ago

        Wait...are you seriously saying that being a woman ISN'T a disadvantage?

        14 points
      • Sam GoldSam Gold, over 5 years ago

        I can hear what you're saying, and in fact that is a common division among women, one that divides the community even further. I went to the Grace Hopper Conference for Women in Computing last year and found that some of my female coworkers felt that the conference just propagated the issue--that even having a conference in the first place to support women suggests that women need that support. However, I've been to conferences where I'm maybe one of five or six women TOTAL, and even though it seems like that might not have any impact studies (and my personal experience) show that it really does (these are a quick google away so I won't clog this with links). The issue is insidious and therefore very easy to miss, but it really does exist. I don't like to think of being a woman as a 'disadvantage' and i don't really think the initial post said that, but being a woman makes certain things more challenging, and the problem doesn't seem to be in having competent ideas it's in having them heard:


        1 point