Is DN going to become an undercover anti-Trump platform for the next four years, masquerading propaganda as design discussions? I'm not a Trump supporter but fucking hell I'm already bored with all this negativity.

Yeah looks better on the shirt than standalone, but seems a bit odd that their crest relies on a certain width of the stripes to work.

As a logo for some up-and-coming clothing brand making cheap sneakers: looks fine. As a crest for a 120-year old football club that supposedly took a year to reach a conclusion on: absolutely awful.

The bromidic statements only makes it worse..."the new logo defines a sense of belonging"...what? It's two lines vaguely shaped as a "J", am I supposed to feel belonged by that? Typical trite agency bullshit to apply the illusion of depth to a logo that has none.

Also, and this is perhaps the most annoying part, the "J" in "Juventus" written above the logomark is not even the same "J" featured in the logo. That's a glaring missed opportunity to bring some form of consistency.

And another thing: this crest will have to be surrounded by a white or gold/yellow stroke at all times, as the Juventus shirt features the exact same colours as the crest. So it's not even the correct depiction of what the logo will look like in reality - they need to add a thick stroke for it to work.

Baffling.

Otherwise known as Client's Law

Correct approach. If you're showing multiple solutions there will be at least one in there you think is inferior to the other(s)...and the client will always end up picking that one. Lose-lose situation.

Interesting...as far as I can remember he actually hired someone to design Codepen?

Why not, it's his site he can do what he wants. It's not like his redesigns look awful. He experiments with different looks and constantly iterates...that's more than most do.

Don't think legacy is the (biggest) problem. Microsoft never was a design-centric company in the past, so it becomes very hard to suddenly change course in that direction, especially for a ship as big as Microsoft. They are trying but I can only imagine how frustrating it must be as a designer at Microsoft.

I think it's worth remembering that Chris is not a designer, nor does he claim to be. He's a CSS guru, for lack of a better term.

If that is their optimal way of being efficient, then yes. If showing up every day is counterproductive and results in less work being done, then no. We're all different.

Over the years I have learned my own best schedule to Get Shit Done™, and that's being in an office four days a week and only ever being there 4-5 hours at a time. I tend to get most stuff done if I get to the office around 10am, grabbing a quick desk lunch around 1pm and then leaving around 3pm to get few hours break. I then work from home in the evening for two or three hours, and voila...eight hour work day but split up into chunks. If I sit at a desk for more than four or five hours my creative side takes a huge hit and everything becomes poo, so it doesn't make sense to keep me in an office from 9-5.