• Pasquale D'SilvaPasquale D'Silva, over 7 years ago

    Not seeing the brief doesn't make something immune from criticism. Criticism is cheap to produce, and it's healthy.

    17 points
    • Justin MezzellJustin Mezzell, over 7 years ago

      Totally agree. I think it's less about criticism and more about lobbing verbal hand grenades that aren't constructively adding to the conversation or offering any valuable critique. A type designer is well versed on what good type looks like--and that kind of input is fantastic.

      To me, it's more about the unsolicited "here, I made you something better" sort of gut reactions that take none of the constraints in mind. Of course we're going to like what we can art direct better.

      12 points
    • Duke CavinskiDuke Cavinski, over 7 years ago

      That said, people appeared to be literally offended by the Uber branding. That is worthy of criticism as well.

      0 points
    • John FlynnJohn Flynn, over 7 years ago

      Not everything that's cheap to produce is healthy or good for you, lazy criticism included.

      6 points
    • Jonathan ShariatJonathan Shariat, over 7 years ago (edited over 7 years ago )

      Agreed. If you are a customer and care about the brand, you are entitled to your opinion of it.

      That opinion might change too. Over time a logo might grow on you again. Logos are containers for brands. When a logo changes in a dramatic way it looses what it had and starts fresh.

      What hes reacting to, and we should stay away from is declaring it "bad" or "good". You can say you don't like it and why, but we should avoid declaring it a failure right off the bat.

      Its just like any design critique. We should approach offering our thoughts in meaningful ways whenever possible. In the least it will keep us fit for our real critiques at work.

      3 points
    • Weston VierreggerWeston Vierregger, over 7 years ago

      Most of the Uber criticism amounts to "he isn't a designer!" -- How is that healthy?

      4 points
      • Pasquale D'SilvaPasquale D'Silva, over 7 years ago

        MOST? You mean, the most you've seen in the design industry on twitter/medium/designer news?

        Pretty small slice of the pie don't you think?

        0 points
    • Ian GoodeIan Goode, over 7 years ago

      The author wasn't talking about criticism so much as the knee-jerk "verbal hand grenades" as Justin Mezzell put it.

      People are entitled to their opinion, of course, and criticism can be healthy, of course, but unfortunately a lot of people have problems when it comes to the way they express their opinion. I think that's what the author is referring to. At the end of the day, as a designer you have to be able to take critique, but you absolutely should not have to take rudeness along with it.

      1 point
      • Pasquale D'SilvaPasquale D'Silva, over 7 years ago (edited over 7 years ago )

        Eh, that disclaimer was recently tacked on at the end of the article, probably after this DN thread came to be. Critique or "verbal hand grenades" were not part of the essay. The author wrote a weak piece of satire, pussyfooting around the real issues.

        "but you absolutely should not have to take rudeness along with it."

        • Yeah, so don't take it. Divorcing yourself from emotion is the ultimate response. Take the value that's wrapped inside the critique missile and do something good with it. If a LOT of people are responding negatively about a piece of work, there's a reason... your job as a designer is to distill it.

        Getting your soiled underwear in a knot over it doesn't do shit.

        0 points